Browns To Fire Chudzinski [edit: he got dumped]

[Davidson Deac II]

By the Numbers we were the 7th ranked offense in 2011 and 50 total yards out of 7th ranked offense, in 2012.  but lets not deny the Offense has taken a serious dive without him, you think we have 4 straight 3 and outs against the Saints if we had Chud? I don't think so.

 

I honestly don't like Shula and hope we replace him with either Chud or Turner next season. an upgrade is needed to someone who's not afraid to open it up. 

 

Chud's offense in 2011 would get a lot of yards, but would usually disappear when the game was on the line. It also had more turnovers, and a lower time of possession which made the defense's job harder. 

 

And last years team actually scored fewer points than we did this year. 

[rayzor]

his offensive players don't like him?

 

ya don't say.

[TheGreatestOfAllTimeCam]

Didn't chud mouth off when he left here? lol

[B.BERSIN]

In 2 hours after he's fired, there will be a thread on huddle named " shall we bring Chudziski back?"

Bank it.

[fieryprophet]

come at me bro! tell me how over conservative Shula is better? I'm all ears

(I'll eat you alive and coming from me you know I'll deliver)

I've already dropped a few facts to support my argument in this thread and a few others, outside of Chud hate I'm not entirely sure what the argument against him coming back is? the numbers and stats are on my side of the argument so please do tell!!!

Ask Steve Smith. Or are you more knowledgable than the GOAT Panther? Hell, ask Cam or DeAngelo.

[frash.exe]

The Chud haters want to champion an average at best offense being better because of the fact that their philosophy is so heavily invested in the imaginary "defense wins championships" concept, which is symptomatic of every fan who can't comprehend the game any further than nfl cliches, so this division championship winning season combined with chud being fired by an organization that is completely aspergers about firing personnel after losing seasons is a feather in their cap.

Me? I'm just happy that we won the division and hope that 1) we can parlay our late game heroics into the playoffs, and 2) the fortune we've had the last twelve games overall joins us in January

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

just dropping in to say hue jackson is better than both

[carolina-chuck]

LOL. I dont even knowmwhat to say about the Browns anymore.

[Doc Holiday]

We are a better redzone offense, 3rd down offense, pts per drive offense, etc. under SHULA.

We are 1% better on 3rd down, we are .4 better in points Per game(over last year we are still almost 2 points down from '11). this is with a Team that has a much improved Defense that has Given us the Ball a lot more often to the defense, in fact our only major area of improvement has been TOP which we have been 5th this year, but how much of that is due to the defense? our Running game is still outside of Cam anemic and as far as yards per game and plays over 20 yards we are horribly down compared to last year. our offense has no teeth.

 

The slightest of Changes in Cam's game have been he's a 1.7% (4%increase over last year) increase in completion % and threw for 5 more TD's but also ran for 3 less over last years, Cam's best improvement has been that he's thrown 4 less INT's.

 

but again how much of that is a carry over from last year?

[AceBoogie]

fug you Norv Turner you picked the wrong team. Now go get him Ron and demote Shula.

[Doc Holiday]

Chud's offense in 2011 would get a lot of yards, but would usually disappear when the game was on the line. It also had more turnovers, and a lower time of possession which made the defense's job harder. 

 

And last years team actually scored fewer points than we did this year. 

both years under chud we were 12th in TOP which is not bad, this year we are 5th averaging almost 2 more minutes a game, which while nice isn't that big of a difference when you are talking about going from 29.5 to 31.2 minutes per game

[ladypanther]

Browns....what a mess. No matter what you think of him, it is not fair to Chud.  I think we were all surprised he got an HC gig (count me among those who are grateful from a Panther perspective). But, geez...give the man a chance.

[PantherPhann89]

Say no to Chud...

[CRA]

We are 1% better on 3rd down, we are .4 better in points Per game(over last year we are still almost 2 points down from '11). this is with a Team that has a much improved Defense that has Given us the Ball a lot more often to the defense, in fact our only major area of improvement has been TOP which we have been 5th this year, but how much of that is due to the defense? our Running game is still outside of Cam anemic and as far as yards per game and plays over 20 yards we are horribly down compared to last year. our offense has no teeth.

The slightest of Changes in Cam's game have been he's a 1.7% (4%increase over last year) increase in completion % and threw for 5 more TD's but also ran for 3 less over last years, Cam's best improvement has been that he's thrown 4 less INT's.

but again how much of that is a carry over from last year?

Better is better. Offense is more efficient and effective as is Cam under Shula.

I am not a Shula guy. I want Norv.

and keep in mind, the 2013 supporting O cast for Cam is the worst he has had here.