What's wrong with the offense? (serious thread)

[thefuzz]

We all know that we got away with one yesterday, and that's cool, but normally we lose that game, as do most teams.

 

Is Cam hurt or injured?  At one point I was calling to have him take a seat, as I wasn't sure if he was hurting or helping the team out there.

 

Is Ron wanting these close games, or is Shula not creative enough to see holes in defenses?  Not sure if we are holding this O back so as not to increase turnovers, or if we are not able to exploit defenses.

 

If we are unable to exploit defenses, it's because of either talent or scheme, personally, I think it's both.  Cam is missing WR's, and at the same time WR's are not getting consistently open out there.

 

What can we do between now and our first playoff game to get this kitten purring?

[RoaringRiot]

At one point I was calling to have him take a seat, as I wasn't sure if he was hurting or helping the team out there.

I was going to take this thread seriously until I got to this line...then I stopped reading.

[Swaggasaurus]

Bad route options for Jody B is a major problem. Too often we have him running a seam route or deep out, he's just not suited for those types of routes. Lafell in order to get open should be running routes across the face of the defender to get his entire body in front of the defender. Cam is also having to wait way too long for routes too develop while typically only having Olsen as a check down, our pass protection is adequate but not great at all. Also Cam needs to do a better job at anticipating where the receivers will be and throw the ball for them to run under it.

[Donald LaFell]

Our offense is mediocre and we look bad when we play a good/above average defense.

[TheRumGone]

yea um if Cam can play on one leg (a la Phillip Rivers) he still gives us the best chance to win....

 

that being said. we are in a funk right now. don't really know what is going on. I hope we bring some life against ATL and it follows us through the playoffs.

[frash.exe]

<insert vapid, generalized comment about "bitching" on the forum here>

[KARASMATIC444]

I think we have gotten away with the short throws on early downs. I believe we had specifically tried to play ball control offence to keep the d fresh. However unsuccessful 1st and second down runs leave us with 3rd and long. we are not set up to give protection that long. I think we need to mix up some short passes in on 1st and second down in order to make 1st downs more manageable. By throwing some short easy completions you get cam in rhythm, and allow our wr a chance to get used to catching. Once they are you run some play action and hit down field. we have lost our dink and dunk plays that had us looking improved on offence. I think our game plan is working but i think we could do alot better with a small adjustment.     

[CardiacCats]

i'm gonna say shula honestly.  but we have obvious holes at WR and on the o line

[dugbug]

Our offense is mediocre and we look bad when we play a good/above average defense.

this offense can be lethal. We just need an answer for a Steve-less passing game

[CarolinaNCSU]

Cam being banged up, Smitty being out, Shula out there being Shula, lack of play makers, sloppy conditions, and the Saints being a decent defense all led to a bad day. The lack of big plays is still concerning, because we have essentially the same personnel we've had the past couple of years, just a different man calling the plays. 

[beastson]

We have to stop abandoning the run, D.Will is better with more carries. More power running formations will work

 

 

[thefuzz]

I was going to take this thread seriously until I got to this line...then I stopped reading.

 

 

It's not a talent thing, I was seriously curious if he was hurt.  Ankles or knees or something.  He does have a habit of throwing high, but yesterday it was pretty obvious that something wasn't right.

[Delhommey]

Too many 3rd and longs, Cam's throwing high due to pressure and injury, below average WR's not able to make something out of nothing, o line not getting it done in run or pass blocking, and a pedestrian backfield not able to work in anything but optimal conditions.

[thefuzz]

Too many 3rd and longs, Cam's throwing high due to pressure and injury, below average WR's not able to make something out of nothing, o line not getting it done in run or pass blocking, and a pedestrian backfield not able to work in anything but optimal conditions.

 

Agree with this, and this is almost all talent driven.

 

It seems the we can't figure out how to scheme around the talent....or it could be that we are, and this is how bad the talent level is out there.