What the hell are the Bobcats doing?

[SuperJTheGreat]

Winning?!?!?! That's a big no no. All this time you wanna lose but now you wanna win? Just utter bullshit. Will come back to haunt.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

Yeah!!!

How dare they pretend to be a competent franchise by winning games when the rest of the league is tanking.

18 teams currently sit at .500 or below. That should indicate how difficult it is/will be for the Bobcats to get a top five pick regardless of if they tried to purposely tank or not.

Also for those conspiracy theorist's out there... with teams like Boston, Brooklyn, New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles possibly being lottery teams, what makes you think Stern would let Charlotte get a top three pick.

It's time to get over yourselves and gear up for what could be a playoff season for the Bobcats.

[carpanfan96]

^thats funny, looking competent.... Haha, they look the exact opposite. Scouts and nba execs are confused about what Charlotte is trying to do and it isn't try to be a constant playoff and contending team...

There's a reason the teams you named are usually good, it's because they understand the one NBA rule that you can't ignore.

No superstar = no chance of constantly contending.

That's the proper way to build a team and everyone in the nba agrees with that principle, well except for Charlotte.

Finally, Charlotte is also under .500 and shouldn't be any where near a playoff seed with how horrible they are.

In closing this discussion, I will simply state that at in no point during this season or offseason has Charlotte and the people running it looked anywhere close to competent In regards to building a solid year in and out contender. The draft is where you play to win as a small market team and I the cats win this season they lost that battle and have horrible affected the long term outlook of the team.

[ckad79]

It's pretty simple. The Bobcats are bad but not bad enough in a terrible eastern conference.

 

As far as the lottery, the balls never seem to pop up in our favor (although if the NBA would ever rig a lottery in our favor, it would be on the eve of the Hornets coming back). Still, I think we have about the same odds of getting into the playoffs this year with no competition vs. getting a top 5 pick.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

^thats funny, looking competent.... Haha, they look the exact opposite. Scouts and nba execs are confused about what Charlotte is trying to do and it isn't try to be a constant playoff and contending team...

There's a reason the teams you named are usually good, it's because they understand the one NBA rule that you can't ignore.

No superstar = no chance of constantly contending.

That's the proper way to build a team and everyone in the nba agrees with that principle, well except for Charlotte.

Finally, Charlotte is also under .500 and shouldn't be any where near a playoff seed with how horrible they are.

- I'm guessing having the 2nd ranked defense in the league means they suck...

- I've watched every single Cats game this year and though they aren't good, they are most certainly a competent team compared to the likes of Milwaukee and Philadelphia. There has only been one game this year where we had no shot of winning and that was against New Orleans.

- No scouts care what Charlotte is doing, don't give me that crap.

- What you guys fail to realize is that this is a money driven league. All the teams I mentioned either have lots of money, are in a big market, or have a huge fan base. That is the only way to compete. When y'all begin to realize that the only way Charlotte will ever succeed is when the team becomes a consistent money maker the better of the franchise will be. I can almost guarantee you that I have put more money into the team than over 95% of the posters on this board because I understand the concept of a bussiness versus a sports league. The NBA will always be a budiness first, that id why college kids can't wait to get there. When the fan base starts pouring money into the team, the league will make sure Charlotte gets its superstar.

- Charlotte tried to build by getting a superstar but got screwed by the lottery multiple times... Did you just decided to get behind the team?

Also if you want to know something funny... out of the teams I named... Only one drafted their superstar (Chicago)... Brooklyn traded for their superstars (Deron Williams, Joe Johnson etc)... New York traded for their superstar (Carmelo Anthony), Boston traded for their superstars to help Pierce (Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen), and Los Angeles traded for their superstar (Kobe Bryant).

Building through the draft is a myth in the NBA, always has been always will be.

[carpanfan96]

- I'm guessing having the 2nd ranked defense in the league means they suck...

- I've watched every single Cats game this year and though they aren't good, they are most certainly a competent team compared to the likes of Milwaukee and Philadelphia. There has only been one game this year where we had no shot of winning and that was against New Orleans.

- No scouts care what Charlotte is doing, don't give me that crap.

- What you guys fail to realize is that this is a money driven league. All the teams I mentioned either have lots of money, are in a big market, or have a huge fan base. That is the only way to compete. When y'all begin to realize that the only way Charlotte will ever succeed is when the team becomes a consistent money maker. When that happens, the league will make sure Charlotte gets its superstar.

- Charlotte tried to build by getting a superstar but got screwed by the lottery multiple times... Did you just decided to get behind the team?

Also if you want to know something funny... out of the teams I named... Only one drafted their superstar (Chicago)... Brooklyn traded for their superstars (Deron Williams, Joe Johnson etc)... New York traded for their superstar (Carmelo Anthony), Boston traded for their superstars to help Pierce (Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen), and Los Angeles traded for their superstar (Kobe Bryant).

Building through the draft is a myth in the NBA, always has been always will be.

I give you the SAS, OKC, the Cavs with James, Pacers and finally Portland. All of them pretty much built through the draft. All of them made it to the finals..... Myth turned to fact????

Charlotte isn't really going to turn a profit without having someone to put buts in the seats. Everyone says Hornets, but they were built right and had good players almost from the start because of the draft...that's where the attendance came from.. Drafting right and building a good team.

This version of Charlotte hasn't done that and needs to build properly to make it long term.

Also I've been here from the start and wanted the team to stay away from the ugly purple and teal jerseys of the 80's when they made the name change.

Which a it turns out has been a horrible decision, because of the name change they felt they needed to improve the team through FA, making a horrible decision In a horrible FA class by over paying for a big that barely shoots 50% from the post, can't play defense and is a black he ball stopping stupid shot taking center....

Great competence and decisions there.... As for the #2 defense, the league sucks on purpose... Winning and those defensive numbers don't mean poo because next year unless they get lucky in the draft they will be back to loosing just with different logos and colors because of being built the wrong way.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

First off, Indy and Portland haven't been to the finals. San Antonio's team was built during the era of the draft, Cleveland never won a ship with LeBron and are now irrelevant... You're only good example was OKC who built their team on the luck of the lottery and Rich Cho's stat evaluation program.

Charlotte is trying to put butts in seats by giving all of you what you wanted... They have brought back the Hornets yet you guys still complain. I guess Bonnell was right, the only thing that matters is winning and that's what the Bobcats are trying to do.

This version of Charlotte tried to build through the draft but through poor picks and getting screwed by the lottery they have gotten themselves no where. The only way this team will be able to compete is by buying a championship (i.e. Boston and Miami).

Finally, just like you said... if they get LUCKY!!! The lottery which isn't a sure thing is something that you want them to waste an entire season for when they could focus on becoming a better team... Call me crazy but that doesn't sound very intelligent.

Just ask Milwaukee how tanking turns out when they wind up with the fifth pick in the draft instead of the first.

[Zaximus]

Be serious, do you really think the NBA would let us get a top pick over a team like Boston, etc?  The lottery is a joke, and it is set up as a way for them to choose who gets picks, not to stop teams from tanking.   If it wasn't a joke, then the worst team in the league would have got a #1 pick in the last 10 years or so.   If people don't think Benson and the Pelicans were handed a #1 because they took the team off the NBA's hands then I'm sorry, you are nuts.

[GamecockSmitty4]

We were the worst team in the history of the league 2 years ago. We were the 2nd worst team in the league last year. We came away with the 2nd pick and 4th pick in both of those years while not even being competitive in 10% of games during the season. Cho is still accumulating assets. This offseason, I imagine that he will begin to use move and use those pieces strategically to bring in a big piece.

 

If you assume that Kemba, MKG, and Zeller are part of our core, we have Henderson, Sessions (expiring 5 mil), Gordon (expiring 13 mil), McRoberts (potential expiring 2.65 mil), and Jeff Taylor all to go along with our draft pick, Detroit's draft pick, and Portland's draft pick. Those are some pretty solid pieces along with a LOT of capspace that could bring in a top notch player or 2.

 

Btw, the Pacers selected their cornerstone pieces with the 10th and 17th picks. So, while they did indeed build through the draft, they didn't do it by losing 80% of their games. Keep in mind, this draft has the potential to be VERY deep. If we were to stick in our spot and not move up in the draft* via trade or lottery, we could have guys like Zach Lavine, James Young, Glen Robinson III, Nik Stauskas, and Rodney Hood among others. All of which could very well develop to become stars.

 

*I do not believe we will win enough games to lose our pick to Chicago. I expect us to be in the 7-10 range when it's all said and done. Especially if we were to trade any of the mentioned pieces above before the trade deadline (keep your eye on Sessions).

[rg3and10]

Lakers, Celtics, Knicks, 76ers, Nets....

5 of the biggest markets in the NBA & between them will probably get Wiggins, Parker, & Randle.

There's a reason all those marquee teams are struggling in the most loaded draft since '03.

[Dorian Gray]

Small market teams usually need to build through the draft.  We're not a destination city, so the examples of Miami, Brooklyn, New York, Chicago, etc. don't work because we don't have the same pull as those places have.  We're more comparable to Indiana and Oklahoma City.  Could we field a competitive team without drafting a superstar?  Probably, yes.  Could we field a championship team without drafting a superstar?  No, I don't think so.  And most people who step back and really look at it would agree.  You NEED a superstar in the NBA to succeed.  You need guys who are in the "is he a top 5 player in the league" conversation.  Of course the argument is that every time we've sucked, we've missed out on the lottery balls needed to get a star.  So do you continue to suck and miss out on guys (alienating fans along the way), or do you try to be the best you can be, even if that means a one-and-done team in the playoffs most years?  That's the decision the front office has had to wrestle with.

[bLACKpANTHER]

listen up- they are trying to build a solid foundation of winning (maybe 8-6 seed this year) so when the name change comes- there will be a decent team on the court to watch.

 

Tanking this year for a top 10 pick would most certainly hurt the sales for next year when the Hornets come back.. they are doing well enough

[MichaelNewtonII]

Winning?!?!?! That's a big no no. All this time you wanna lose but now you wanna win? Just utter bullshit. Will come back to haunt.

#Tank2013

[MichaelNewtonII]

listen up- they are trying to build a solid foundation of winning (maybe 8-6 seed this year) so when the name change comes- there will be a decent team on the court to watch.

 

Tanking this year for a top 10 pick would most certainly hurt the sales for next year when the Hornets come back.. they are doing well enough

next year when teams are not purposely losing, they will be right back to being a bottom feeder…. the record they have now is a result of teams just purposely losing this year to get a top pick.