Once again lets discuss Greg Hardy for a sec

[CatMan72]

Why the hell would we want Peppers back?

 

LOL yeah, Peppers is really tearing it up this year! 

 

But at least he has a good attitude and provides good veteran leadership in the locker room... OH WAIT.  

 

We should all be very grateful to Peppers, he did us a HUGE favor by rejecting the contract offers we made him. I think that deserves it's own appreciation thread. 

[CatMan72]

But back on topic, Hardy is one of the best and most consistent pass rushers in the league and he deserves a significant contract. Chasing FA's while letting your own talented home-grown players walk is the path to hell.

 

Hardy is not only worth his own weight in gold, but he helps us get the most value out of our investment in CJ by being the bookend DE you need to have a truly consistent and effective pass rush. 

[Carolina Cajun]

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[rico6]

Julius fuging Peppers.

 

God damnit will you people get out of 09'

[thefuzz]

I'd love to keep him, but I just don't know if we can.  I'm not sure I want two big money DEs.  Could CJ possibly restructure?  I don't know.  All I know is that 99.9% of the Huddle was onboard with keeping both DeAngelo and J. Stew and now they're just killing our cap space.  Gettleman could get creative with the structure of the deal, but I don't know.  We'll just have to see.  Addison has looked good when given opportunities. I don't view Hardy as a MUST sign.  We gotta put some money in the offense and I don't mean more RBs.  OL and WR.  Some CBs too.

 

 

What in blue hell?

[CardiacCats]

Offer him 4/25-30 mill and tell him take it or leave it. If he walks use that money to like you said make a run at Nicks or find legit secondary talent

[bleys]

At some point these RB contracts will be replaced by contracts on the DL..  Would be bad to let a guy go who can single-handedly erase a TD against the Aints*..  Granted they only scored again anyhow.

 

People can scoff at Hardy's importance to this team, but don't clown yourself by saying Alexander is going to make up for Hardy when the kid can't even get a jersey on Game day..  

 

Addison and Horton have been getting attention..  Maybe Addison turns out to be one of those feel-good stories, but at the moment all they are is very convenient depth which is a huge plus to have.  Ideally, you want to be able to trade over-abundance at one position, but we just developed it.  

 

Money should be thrown at certain positions of importance.  Unfortunately it's being wasted at the moment...

[Khaki Lackey]

Hardy drives a Bentley..NFL is all about money and paydays, his agent is a notorious hard line money guy..connect the dots.

Plus, he has a degree from Hogwarts.

[Peppers90 NC]

Hardy leaving would create a huge need, and we already have quite a few of those.

[Goondal]

I really want him to stay, but if his staying is going to keep us from upgrading the secondary, as well as OL and WR then I will pass.

[Snake]

He is one of those dudes you cannot gage. I mean he might go chasing after the money but really he might be happier with less money and saying with people he likes. Either way he will make more money than he does now.

[dos poptarts]

Were there any big DE contracts given last year? If anything I thought this offseason showed that teams were NOT willing to offer big (Mario Williams) contracts to dline. How many defensive players turned down extensions and then got a smaller contract once they had to go into the market and find a buyer.

 

And in the offseason the 2011 CBA contacts can start to get negotiated. Eating up more CAP space.

Dareus(Buf), Watt(Hou), Quinn(StL), Kerrigan(WAS), Clayborn(TB), Jordan(NO), Houston(KC). Even if the teams can't come to an agreement, the CBA allows teams to add an option year to their rookie contract. I'm not sure big money will be out for RFAs in the offseason.

 

[carpanfan96]

Were there any big DE contracts given last year? If anything I thought this offseason showed that teams were NOT willing to offer big (Mario Williams) contracts to dline. How many defensive players turned down extensions and then got a smaller contract once they had to go into the market and find a buyer.

 

And in the offseason the 2011 CBA contacts can start to get negotiated. Eating up more CAP space.

Dareus(Buf), Watt(Hou), Quinn(StL), Kerrigan(WAS), Clayborn(TB), Jordan(NO), Houston(KC). Even if the teams can't come to an agreement, the CBA allows teams to add an option year to their rookie contract. I'm not sure big money will be out for RFAs in the offseason.

 

 

Paul Kruger got a big deal for his production, 40+ over 5 years. Dumervil signed a 40+ over 5 year deal. Desmond Bryant got a 5 year deal worth 34 million. I lump all edge rusher's together in the same money category, because they all usually make similar money deal wise. Hardy's combination of Youth, production and versatility is better then the above players.

[carolina-chuck]

You're a dumbass, Gettleman already offered Hardy 8 million a year over the next 4 years and he turned it down

Newb. Banning your ass