Panthers believe Jonathan Stewart has torn MCL

[LinvilleGorge]

You can't really say that. If Cam breaks his neck last week he doesn't become a bad draft pick. Stewart and Otah were monsters on the field when healthy, and you can't decline to draft good players on the chance they could get hurt.

 

But, both had concerns coming into the draft.  Stewart was coming into the league with injury concerns and there were many who questioned Otah's work ethic leading up to the draft.  Hurney gambled on both and lost.  Guys like Morgan and Beason you can't blame on Hurney. Those guys didn't come into the league with injury issues, they just fell apart once they got to the NFL.  But, when a GM drafts guys with injury and/or work ethic issues and those issues go onto derail that guy's career, you can absolutely say those were bad picks.  Especially if they were 1st rounders.  It's a different story with mid or late round picks.  If you can get a player of their talent level but a question mark or two in the mid to late rounds, then by all means do it.  Greg Hardy is a good example.

[Frank Hollywood]

Perhaps, but if he can't play, it's a wasted roster spot on top of dead money.

Agreed, however his specific contract would accelerate so much dead money it would far outweigh the benefit of an extra roster spot. He will absolutely be on the roster in 2014.

[LinvilleGorge]

Him retiring our only out?

 

 

Possible injury settlement?  I don't know, but we have to find a way to get out from under his and DeAngelo's contracts.  They're killing us in terms of the salary cap.

[PantherBrew]

I'd agree, but MCL/ACL injuries seem to be on the rise.

 

Well its two parts... 

 

It used to be just called a "blown out knee".  

 

Also, this is my understanding, since the athletes have gotten so much bigger and stronger in the last 2 decades, their ligaments are not getting stronger.  And the extra muscle mass and increased stress put on these joints are causing them to rupture much more frequently.  

[Mr. Scot]

Him retiring our only out?

I don't know that that'd make it any better.

[Admiral Ackbar]

Tears are just bad sprains.  A tear begins to happen at Grade Two.  A Grade One is just ligament stretching, no actual tear.  A Grade Two is a partial tear and a Grade Three is a full tear. 

 

Just to clarify this, there are two different terms used in the medical community regarding trauma or "tearing" to soft tissue structures in the human body. A strain is injury to a muscle or tendon (tendon connects muscle to bone) , while a sprain is trauma to ligaments (ligaments connect bone to bone) or joint capsules.

 

The MCL, LCL, ACL, and PCL are all ligaments in the knee which basically help to stabilize the joint during cutting, running, jumping, etc.

 

As far as the grading the injuries, LinvilleGorge is correct. They also use this grading system in strains as well.

 

But lets remember, a partial tear (Grade 2) which is what we are assuming J-Stew has, is still a tear and will require significant care and rehab before he returns. And his injuries always taking longer to come back from......

[PantherFanOne]

Perhaps, but if he can't play, it's a wasted roster spot on top of dead money.

 

Yeah,looks like it could be  a double whammy hit from what I can gather.Marty Hurney sure put a big fugging on the Panthers,now were are (or soon will be) paying the price for it. What a joke he was as GM concerning our salary cap.

[megatroll]

I like the guy but he needs to either take a massive and I do mean massive paycut or go. 

[Hammerin'Cameron34]

Stew hit = Gronk hit

[IamSoClutch]

Double Trouble is doing nothing now except causing us trouble.

 

I believe he will take a paycut knowing how his contract is holding this team back and him having to constantly rehab.

 

Id rather have a 100 million dollar oline than 100 million in RBs.

 

Lets just hope we cut Dwill, Stewart restructures enough money to get us Micheal Oher, and Kenjon Barner puts on 20lbs this offseason

[bigdog10]

Double Trouble is doing nothing now except causing us trouble.

 

I believe he will take a paycut knowing how his contract is holding this team back and him having to constantly rehab.

 

Id rather have a 100 million dollar oline than 100 million in RBs.

 

Lets just hope we cut Dwill, Stewart restructures enough money to get us Micheal Oher, and Kenjon Barner puts on 20lbs this offseason

 

Really???  You want the most penalized offensive lineman in the league on this team?

[IamSoClutch]

Really???  You want the most penalized offensive lineman in the league on this team?

he could improve. he a great run blocker and better than Bell. and his penltys could be mental and would also be the reason we could afford him

[LinvilleGorge]

Michael Oher would probably come cheap and be a big upgrade over Bell.  He struggles with speed rushers and that's what leads to his false start issues.  He's struggling at LT, but we'd be playing him at RT.

[bigdog10]

There is no doubt he is an upgrade over Bell, but he has to get those penalties under control or it is basically a wash.

 

You're either taking a 5 yard sack with Bell, or a 5 yard procedure penalty/10 yard hold with Oher.

 

Either way you are going the wrong direction.