Would it be better to not re-sign Peppers?

[bleys]

No disrespect......but are u on crack?:sifone:

You have now made it obvious why you argue about the things you argue about.. anyone that understands how a team works understands that DWill is more expendable than TD... That isn't saying TD has more value as an individual player, but on a team, he has more value. Stewart can fill in for losing DWill, whereas we don't have an immediate replacement for TD that brings the same value and the chemistry he has had time to build with Beason.

[Urrymonster]

If next year is uncapped then neither Davis or Williams will be a free agent. They both will be restricted free agents since the length of service to be an unrestricted free agent will increase to 6 years.

Very good point.

Anyone have a list of who our potential free agents are for this coming season? We won't be able to re-sign anyone during the season due to our cap situation without restructures and possible cuts.

If it is NOT an uncapped season, then we could have DWill, TD and Pep (any other 'big' names?) all becoming free agents at once, with only one tag...

Tough, tough decisions. I reckon TD will want to get paid. Just a hunch and I feel we may not be able to keep him.

[User Name]

You have now made it obvious why you argue about the things you argue about.. anyone that understands how a team works understands that DWill is more expendable than TD... That isn't saying TD has more value as an individual player, but on a team, he has more value. Stewart can fill in for losing DWill, whereas we don't have an immediate replacement for TD that brings the same value and the chemistry he has had time to build with Beason.

We need to see how things play out before making judgments on value. If you made me choose right now it would be Williams without hesitation. As good as Stewart has looked so far, I can see why you assume he would be able to step right in and fill the potential hole Deangelo's departure would create, but it's not a given.

Williams was an absolute beast last year, if he continues he'll be a franchise back and those don't grow on tree's, a weak side linebacker while important holds no where near the value a franchise back does.

[bleys]

We need to see how things play out before making judgments on value. If you made me choose right now it would be Williams without hesitation. As good as Stewart has looked so far, I can see why you assume he would be able to step right in and fill the potential hole Deangelo's departure would create, but it's not a given.

Williams was an absolute beast last year, if he continues he'll be a franchise back and those don't grow on tree's, a weak side linebacker while important holds no where near the value a franchise back does.

can't argue with that, but the same case about "we have to see what he is really made of" can be said about DWill... TD can't be replaced... DWill only had 1 good year, although (and just like Stewart) I expect him to continue to improve (even if stats don't add up to what he had last year).. Same as DWill, I will say his potential is just as great to where Stewart can take that spot.

After all, Stewart did pick up at the beginning of the season when DWill wasn't so hot. TD on the other hand is a different issue. He's shown he is only getting better. I wouldn't mess with him at his position as I would with Stew taking over for DWill...

Not disagreeing, just think at this point, the argument can be made in TD's favor...

[Kevin Greene]

You have now made it obvious why you argue about the things you argue about.. anyone that understands how a team works understands that DWill is more expendable than TD... That isn't saying TD has more value as an individual player, but on a team, he has more value. Stewart can fill in for losing DWill, whereas we don't have an immediate replacement for TD that brings the same value and the chemistry he has had time to build with Beason.

Hmmm, Stewart may have continual injury issues. Have you ckd DWill's College and Pro durability? Risky at best to say adios to #34.

Beason, Anderson, Johnson, Connor, Diggs, Leman plus whatever you might draft or sign free agent should suffice in 2010 should it come to it.

[Delhomme17]

how about we play this season with him and be happy about it and worry about next offseason when it's actually here....?

[Killer RB's]

how about we play this season with him and be happy about it and worry about next offseason when it's actually here....?

:thumbsup:

[bleys]

Hmmm, Stewart may have continual injury issues. Have you ckd DWill's College and Pro durability? Risky at best to say adios to #34.

Beason, Anderson, Johnson, Connor, Diggs, Leman plus whatever you might draft or sign free agent should suffice in 2010 should it come to it.

Definitely something to factor in, but one thing also to consider is that Stewart is just as productive with these "injuries". I would hope these things go away after this year... It hasn't been a nagging injury that keeps arising.

But what's very important is that Stewart plays through the injury while staying very consistent.. DWill has been suspect up until this year with injuries. I think they may balance out, but just because DWill stayed relatively healthy last year doesn't mean the other years are moot and that he won't have more in the future.

What's great is that we have both, and I do think we'll keep both for quite a while.

With all of that said, DWill could be a special talent that you don't find but every 5-10 years... Don't read into that too much, because no one knows.. If he is, then I would hate to let someone like that go.

and are you saying those LBers you mentioned would suffice if we let TD go? If so, I completely disagree that it would be a wise decision. It may "suffice", and I would agree in the case of you using that word, but we don't need to worry about just squeaking by in filling TD's spot, when we have TD and are not going to easily replace him. I just think that would be one of the worst moves in Panther history... and just to keep DWill? When you have a RB in Stewart, letting TD go is a horrible move...

[Hairless Cat]

Get rid of peppers for what ever you can get for him.

I really dont like his attitude and letting it infect the rest of the team is a mistake. personally I wish we had traded him for a good first round single pick or a high 2nd.

[Snake]

I say we keep pep if he wants to stay. Looks like next year will be uncapped anyway so why not? We def are not at the bottom of the pack in spending.

[SMACKDAB]

How bout we just keep EVERY fugin body?

Because I don't like EVERY fugin BODY !!!

[top dawg]

Let's say, Peppers goes from having 10+ sacks to the Peppers of old and gets 5, maybe 6... hell, maybe 2.

No disrespect (reminiscent of the Tuna), no disrespect...but WTH are you talking about when you say "the Peppers of old"? Pep has only had one off year. Look at his average!

Five? Six? TWO? Come on. I don't mind a rational discussion, but let's frame it by reality.

[top dawg]

Get rid of peppers for what ever you can get for him.

I really dont like his attitude and letting it infect the rest of the team is a mistake. personally I wish we had traded him for a good first round single pick or a high 2nd.

Pep has a great attitude. He's a stand-up guy. Now if you're talking about the issue from a totally business perspective, then I can see why you might not pull the trigger, but you should keep in mind that the Pep situation has really always been about business on both his and the FO's part. I can't see getting upset about that.

[mantal]

Pep has a great attitude. He's a stand-up guy. Now if you're talking about the issue from a totally business perspective, then I can see why you might not pull the trigger, but you should keep in mind that the Pep situation has really always been about business on both his and the FO's part. I can't see getting upset about that.

Peppers raped his sister...