It's been said by others, but I'll make it official

[Mr. Scot]

Watch the play.

 

Watch where Gronkowski ran.

 

Watch where the ball was thrown.

 

Watch where Lester was.

 

Keep in mind that even if he wasn't grabbing him, he was still between him and the ball, as was Lester.  Mike Mitchell was also just off camera in a good position to help defend it, especially given where the ball was thrown.

 

It was a good non-call on a bad pass.

[chknwing]

Lol at NE not expecting the refs to let the players play on the last play of the game.

I've never seen a bigger group of entitled arrogant douche nozzles.

 

I was surrounded by NE fans up in 536, to see all their arrogance crushed in one play was the highlight of the night for me.  I didnt see a single NE fan utter a word as they walked the long walked down the ramp from the upper deck.  As the rest of of us we were screaming and chanting. "Go Panthers"!

[bigdog10]

How many times have the pats been on the other side of those calls?

It's nice to finally be on the right side and send those pompous a holes back north with a loss

[bigskypanthersguy]

For you ignorant fugs i said you guys were the better team yesterday hands down. Easily! Offense was efficient and defense was stout for majority of the game. You just aren't anything to be feared sorry lol. Enjoy your success it's well deserved! But that secondary is not the best in the league and it will get Swiss cheesed up in the Dome! Catch us if you can! Lol #itsaRace

 

hashtags are as lame as your run defense, and who beat you in the dome last year?

[PanthersBigD]

I believe that if Robert Lester hadn't been there to make a play on the ball, and it were just Keek and Gronk jostling for the ball, a PI call might have been possible. However, based on the way Gronk's own momentum was carrying him before Keek even touched him, he wasn't getting that ball, Lester was.

 

If there's no Lester(and there was), MAAAAAYBE an untouched Gronk could have planted his foot and fallen forward and made a play on that underthrown ball. Since Lester WAS there, he would have had to have fallen through another human being to be in position to make the catch. Too many IFs in the 'Gronk makes the catch' scenario than what should be considered a reasonable argument FOR a PI call.

 

 

[IamSoClutch]

I honestly thought keek was falling towards the end of the play which made it look worse than it was

[IamSoClutch]

and the I don't understand how gronk was going to catch the ball if roll tide was underneath

[Montsta]

Lol at NE not expecting the refs to let the players play on the last play of the game.

I've never seen a bigger group of entitled arrogant douche nozzles.

Can you please bring back your MFCEO label with Kenny Powers on it? Eastbound & Down ended and my heart is still sad.

[pantherclaw]

I strongly disagree with the OP.

THE RULEBOOK STATES THAT ANY PASS BLOCKED OR INTERCEPTED IS DEEMED UNCATCHABLE.

THEREFORE NO PI PENALTY.

Try to grasp that very simple rule/concept.

[Smith vs Lucas]

I love me some Keeks, but he made a dumb play against Gronk.  Not only should he have been penalized, it would have been better for him and the team in the long run to been penalized.  Why do I say that?  This is not the first time I seen Kuechly mug a good tight end in the endzone.  What I saw last night was almost a mirror image of what he did to Gonzalez when we played the Falcons.  Someone said that Kuechly made a similar play against the Bills, but I can't confirm that and yet I also wouldn't doubt it.  It's clear now that this style of play is instinctual, and that is not good for us in the long run.

 

 

Kuechly should have been penalized, and that would have taught him to stop that kind of play.  For one, it wasn't even necessary.  We all know Brady has to throw the ball in the endzone, and we all calculated that Gronk was Brady's go-to-guy.  You drop seven guys in coverage, meaning you aren't the only one to defend the pass.  Why are you wrapping up and bear hugging the guy, not even a hint of attempt at actually playing the ball?  That drives me crazy because Kuechly was actually in better position to intercept the pass himself had he played the ball.  Why am I so mad that the refs picked the flag up?  For one, it does in a way cheapen the game overall.  I know the Patriots had a lot of dirty plays and they might have deserved for the refs to look the other way on that last play, but I want my team to play honorably regardless.  I want to win without any excuse from the other side.  That we were the best team last night through and through.  Them picking up the flag kind of cheapened that for me.  Secondly, Kuechly will now move on without changing his thought on how to cover a good tight end in the endzone.  Eventually that play will catch up.  I much rather would have been penalized last night and dealt with the consequences (one of them being Kuechly learn from this and begin playing the ball), than Kuechly doing something like this in the playoffs and it ends up costing us the game then.

 

 

How many of you believe Rivera got on Kuechly for that play last night?  How many of you believe Kuechly is mentally checking himself right now and correct himself?  Maybe those two things happened, I don't know.  Yet I'm not as confident those two things happened now, because Kuechly wasn't penalized.  Had he been penalized, those two things would have gotten done and trust me, they need to get done.

 

Do you believe if Kuechly would have not been in front of Gronk, that Gronk could have made that touchdown infront of Robert Lester? I dont think so, there were at least two other panthers around Gronk beside Lester and Kuechly that could have ultimately made a play on that ball. ESPN is blowing this way out of the water.. why you ask? because ESPN always pull for larger market teams. Kuechly is what makes this defense ticks. So dont go blaming our best player for mistakes he has not even made yet. For all you bandwagon fans saying "thats game", " yep we lost", and " we will never beat a great team" after the third quarter. Can go suck it! You don't even deserve to watch the rest of the games this season.

 

[Montsta]

Gronks momentum was taking him far from the ball. What's being lost in this is that even if Kuechly wasn't hugging Gronk, he still had position on him and Gronk wouldn't have been able to go through him AND Lester to get the ball.

[frash.exe]

Wow you can really tell some people aren't used to seeing us compete in big games like this

[Eclipse]

I love me some Keeks, but he made a dumb play against Gronk.  Not only should he have been penalized, it would have been better for him and the team in the long run to been penalized.  Why do I say that?  This is not the first time I seen Kuechly mug a good tight end in the endzone.  What I saw last night was almost a mirror image of what he did to Gonzalez when we played the Falcons.  Someone said that Kuechly made a similar play against the Bills, but I can't confirm that and yet I also wouldn't doubt it.  It's clear now that this style of play is instinctual, and that is not good for us in the long run.

 

 

Kuechly should have been penalized, and that would have taught him to stop that kind of play.  For one, it wasn't even necessary.  We all know Brady has to throw the ball in the endzone, and we all calculated that Gronk was Brady's go-to-guy.  You drop seven guys in coverage, meaning you aren't the only one to defend the pass.  Why are you wrapping up and bear hugging the guy, not even a hint of attempt at actually playing the ball?  That drives me crazy because Kuechly was actually in better position to intercept the pass himself had he played the ball.  Why am I so mad that the refs picked the flag up?  For one, it does in a way cheapen the game overall.  I know the Patriots had a lot of dirty plays and they might have deserved for the refs to look the other way on that last play, but I want my team to play honorably regardless.  I want to win without any excuse from the other side.  That we were the best team last night through and through.  Them picking up the flag kind of cheapened that for me.  Secondly, Kuechly will now move on without changing his thought on how to cover a good tight end in the endzone.  Eventually that play will catch up.  I much rather would have been penalized last night and dealt with the consequences (one of them being Kuechly learn from this and begin playing the ball), than Kuechly doing something like this in the playoffs and it ends up costing us the game then.

 

 

How many of you believe Rivera got on Kuechly for that play last night?  How many of you believe Kuechly is mentally checking himself right now and correct himself?  Maybe those two things happened, I don't know.  Yet I'm not as confident those two things happened now, because Kuechly wasn't penalized.  Had he been penalized, those two things would have gotten done and trust me, they need to get done.

 

My take is this isn't about if the ref call was right or not.  Its about Luke's play during crunch time going forward not hurting

 

this team like his pass interference did in Buffalo. 

[beastson]

Wow at this. Remind me of the trade Cam Newton posts. Like I said in another thread, he's a 2ND YEAR player and he's still learning. You think by his 5th year things like this will happen? Yall stay making some crazy overreacting threads