TNF: IND at TEN

[Boltergeist]

good night Tennessee

[Mr. Scot]

Whoa look at that. Luck didn't leas a game ending drive.

Guess he sucks :rolleyes:

[Mr. Scot]

We didn't just have losing teams on the schedule, we obliterated losing teams on our schedule, including the team that lambasted Luck(y)'s team last week. Luck(y) and MVP were used in the same sentence in this thread. Facts and statistics show that is truly a ludacris comment, or should be anyway.

You and the other girls should go on Facebook and spread nasty rumors about him. That'll show him!

[ctrcat]

Congratufuginlations, he beat a 7th round pick from Harvard that was run out of Buffalo, sadly the 2nd best thing in that pitiful division.

[ctrcat]

Don't need rumors. NFL stats show he has a lower rating and/or completion % than 11 of the "young" QBs he's compared to.

[CCS]

i dont care about stats. Luck had leadship and is a big time playmaker. Some people really need to get over the fact that Luck is actually good.

[carpantherfan84]

Please :unsure:

Right now, he's Archie Manning, a great QB on an awful team. And admitting that does nothing to slight Can in any way.

Maybe one day you guys will have enough confidence to let go of your insecurities and admit that. Till then, the Legion of Jealous Teenage Girls rolls on.

LMAO. Honestly man. Its really funny. I have gone on and on with genuine analysis on his game. I can tell you really don't understand so Im not even gonna bother to do it again. Its sad though because people like you are the reason why this kid will not be successful in the league. Its the same thing with The Golden Calf of Bristol.  Media hyped him up and he never got the opportunity to fix his flaws, but hey, he could win it late!!!. One thing for Luck is that management knows that he is not as good as people believe and instead is cutting back on his attempts, not allowing him to throw down field, limiting the reads he has, and giving him easy completions. Good for him.  But I know you don't understand all of that.  I honestly don't think you know much of anything about football other than what you hear on tv.

 

And you say he is Archie Manning. hmmmm okay.

 

below 60% completion on career               check

no season quarterback rating above 81     check

more INT's than TD's                                  remove the run game and make him throw downfield

average 7 YPA on career                           check

 

 

Sounds pretty mediocre to me.  But Hey you called it, right.  And here I thought you didn't know poo about football. Go ahead with your bad self.

[carpantherfan84]

Congratufuginlations, he beat a 7th round pick from Harvard that was run out of Buffalo, sadly the 2nd best thing in that pitiful division.

 

Barely

[KillerKat]

Andrew Luck is far from great. He is good yes, great no. Every time I see him play, it doesn't match the hype.  Luck is just way overhyped. However, I think he is top 3 of the QB bunch consisting of Cam, Kaep, Wilson, and RG3.

 

1. Cam

2. Luck/Wilson

3. Kaep

4. RG3

 

If I had to rank those 5 QBs with the other teams in the NFL however, Kaep and RG3 would be either around the middle or lower (bottom 15). Cam, Luck, and Wilson will be in the above average group (above 15).

 

I just don't see any of them being better than Cam. When Cam is on, he is far beyond better than any of the other 4. It is asinine of them to hype up inferior QBs to fit their agenda.

 

At best, Luck has looked above average to me when I've seen him play this year. And his play hasn't been that way very often.

[Mr. Scot]

Don't need rumors. NFL stats show he has a lower rating and/or completion % than 11 of the "young" QBs he's compared to.

Then why are you so insecure about him?

I wonder if you guys have any idea just how stupid these "OMG LUCK IS GETTING MORE ATTENTION THAN CAM ITS NOT FAIR ITS NOT FAIR THE MEDIA IS A BUNCH OF POO POO HEADS" threads actually look.

He's good. So is Newton. So what?

Grow up and get over it.

[Mr. Scot]

LMAO. Honestly man. Its really funny. I have gone on and on with genuine analysis on his game. I can tell you really don't understand so Im not even gonna bother to do it again. Its sad though because people like you are the reason why this kid will not be successful in the league. Its the same thing with The Golden Calf of Bristol. Media hyped him up and he never got the opportunity to fix his flaws, but hey, he could win it late!!!. One thing for Luck is that management knows that he is not as good as people believe and instead is cutting back on his attempts, not allowing him to throw down field, limiting the reads he has, and giving him easy completions. Good for him. But I know you don't understand all of that. I honestly don't think you know much of anything about football other than what you hear on tv.

And you say he is Archie Manning. hmmmm okay.

below 60% completion on career check

no season quarterback rating above 81 check

more INT's than TD's remove the run game and make him throw downfield

average 7 YPA on career check

Sounds pretty mediocre to me. But Hey you called it, right. And here I thought you didn't know poo about football. Go ahead with your bad self.

Analysis...right :lol:

Comparing Luck to T-bow...Wow. That may be the single dumbest thing posted in this thread.  I realize you guys are desperate to try and argue that Luck somehow isn't any good, but that's a reach even Mr Fantastic couldn't make.

Quick Tip: Luck is going to succeed or not all on his own. Post a hundred threads with 5000 words a day on here if you want, and he'll still keep winning games and making the Jealous Teenage Girls on here sad.

The only thing you're really succeeding at is making yourselves look ridiculous.

You and the rest of the girls should just start an "I hate Andrew Luck" Facebook page so you can vent to your heart's delight :rolleyes:

[Mr. Scot]

And since you decided to go the stats route, let's take a look at the ones you brought up...

Completion Percentage: Newton's career percentage is also under 60. It actually went down from his rookie year to his second, but is up this season since we've gone to dink and dunk passing. Among the players who have a better percentage than Newton this season are such world beaters as Nick Foles, Christian Ponder, Matt Schaub, Matt Cassel, Tony Romo, Seneca Wallace and T J Yates.

Quarterback Rating: Luck's for the season to date is actually 87. In fact, it's only been below the magical number of 81 in three of his eleven games this year. Newton's been below that mark four times in nine games, and was in fact rated 52.7 in the last game against the 49ers. He went as low as 47.8 a while back (Cardinals) while Luck's low point for the season is 65.3 (Rams). Higher ratings for this season to date belong to, among others, Matt Cassel, Sam Bradford, Josh McCown, Case Keenum, Tony Romo, Jason Campbell and Matt Ryan.

Ints / TDs / YPA: Luck's career ratio of 37 to 24 (1.542) is actually better than Newton's 53 to 37 (1.432). And as far as who's pulling back on the longballs, Luck has 36 passes of 20 yards or more this season while Newton has only 22. Ya wanna throw in rushing yards? Advantage Newton, but only by 32 yards (266 to 231). And in that YPA category, Luck's is exactly 7.0. Newton's? Only 7.8 overall. FYI: RG3 owns a 7.7 here. For this season, Newton is at 7.3, while Nick Foles is at 9.2. And while we're at it, Luck has 347 attempts this season (31.5 per game) where Newton has 271 (30.1 per game) so who's 'cutting down on attempts'?

(Source for all stats: NFL.com)

Real impressed with that 'factual analysis' ya did there :lol:

(glad you haven't allowed emotion or jealousy to affect your thinking) :unsure:

So if you believe these stats bolster your argument that Luck isn't all that good, what do they say about Newton?

[Mother Grabber]

18-8 with mediocre talent around him is nothing to scoff at. Dude has only been in the league for a season and a half, and he's won 2/3 of his games. Again, what the hell does he have to do?

[Mr. Scot]

Luck is most definitely a good QB but boy is he overrated.

 

They all are.

 

The media loves to treat quarterbacks like gods (yes, even Newton sometimes) but no one is truly as great as the hype would make them seem.  That includes Peyton, Rodgers, Brees and Brady.  All of them have their flaws.

 

And honestly, you can find fans of pretty much every team who think their QB is disrespected in the media when compared to others.  It's just fanthink.

 

It's something I've gotten used to over time.