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Cary Kollins

By Cary Kollins,
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Marvin49 Newbie

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Arizona isn't top 10 in yards or points. Only Seattle and you got stomped

And we were up on AZ after the first half despite dropping an open TD pass on a drive and a 4th down in the red zone on another ....we imploded late and the score snowballed at the end.

So the question was if you have played a comparable D.... Answer is only Seattle. AZ isn't

 

In YPG, Houston (#1), Seattle (#2), Titans (#11), Cards (#13), Green Bay (#15).

 

Meanwhile, the highest Ranked Ds the Panthers have beaten outside of Seattle are those same 13th ranked Cards and the 14th ranked Giants.

 

It works both ways. Outside of Seattle, the Panthers haven't faced a D like SFs. The Niners also weren't "stomped" as the score was 12-3 halfway through the 4th quarter...IN SEATTLE.

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teeray Rookie

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You couldn't even score a TD against a team we killed.

 

Seattle's defense is better than yours.

 

You're right TB did better than us and everyone else that's played out there. So? They played Seattle better than you guys did too.

 

And who says we're a juggernaut? Some 21 year old keyboard jockey who never played football on a 49ers messageboard? If you've read any of teh rational 49ers fans posts, you'll know we're all nervous about this game. And rightly so.

 

 

The fact that we didn't score a TD against Zona was a outlier because of dropped passes in key situations (TD drop and 4th down drop), and an ill advised INT by Cam.

 

And don't act like you rolled Zona.  That whole game was determined by the 6 Zona turnovers.

 

Let me put that game in perspective for you.  San  Francisco scored 11 of their points off of a combined  -2 yards.

 

In other words, in order to score 11 of their points they only had to move the ball on offense a grand total of negative 2 yards.

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In YPG, Houston (#1), Seattle (#2), Titans (#11), Cards (#13), Green Bay (#15).

 

Meanwhile, the highest Ranked Ds the Panthers have beaten outside of Seattle are those same 13th ranked Cards and the 14th ranked Giants.

 

It works both ways. Outside of Seattle, the Panthers haven't faced a D like SFs. The Niners also weren't "stomped" as the score was 12-3 halfway through the 4th quarter...IN SEATTLE.

 

They didn't beat the Cardinals.

 

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2013100608/2013/REG5/panthers@cardinals#menu=highlights&tab=recap

 

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I know how a few drops/muscues can kill you. And just like your game against ARI, our game against Seattle was the same way. The score wasn;t indicative of the game itself.

 

We have also improved immensely since then.

 

The reason that you got stomped by Seattle was because you only had one decent drive the whole game.  It was pitiful.

 

Mike Glennon looked like Joe Montana compared to Kaepernick against the Hawks

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If its and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas.

I'm not hanging my hat on anything but what we are.....the best D you will face this season.

Yeah, the Tampa Bay Sucks just played out there....they did a LOT better than your mighty 9ers.

You aren't this juggernaut some paint. And AZ has only 3 more turnovers than Seattle for the record

 

The only top 13 defense you guys have faced was Seattle and Arizona. They held you to 7 points and 6 points, respectively. Yes, they might have held us to 3, but we also played them in Seattle. 

 

We had 30+ on the Texans, Titans and Cardinals. Who are all top 13 NFL defenses

 

No offense, your defense is good, but it's not the best we have to face this season. Not even close, that title goes to Seattle. 

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The fact that we didn't score a TD against Zona was a outlier because of dropped passes in key situations (TD drop and 4th down drop), and an ill advised INT by Cam.

 

And don't act like you rolled Zona.  That whole game was determined by the 6 Zona turnovers.

 

Let me put that game in perspective for you.  San  Francisco scored 11 of their points off of a combined  -2 yards.

 

In other words, in order to score 11 of their points they only had to move the ball on offense a grand total of negative 2 yards.

 

Right...because the 49ers had nothing to do with any of the turnovers.

 

Even if you take away your magic 11 points, they won by 12. This game was also played without Aldon Smith and with a gimpy Patrick Wiilis.

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...our game against Seattle was the same way. The score wasn;t indicative of the game itself.

 

 

The Niners also weren't "stomped" as the score was 12-3 halfway through the 4th quarter...IN SEATTLE.

 

Just wanted to chime in and correct some incorrect "facts" laid out by a couple of the resident 49er fans here.

 

#1 - The score was very much indicative of the game. We turned you over 5 times in that game and held Gore to 16 yards.

 

#2 - You were stomped (see #1). And the score was actually 22-3 with 11:36 left in the 4th quarter.

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The only top 13 defense you guys have faced was Seattle and Arizona. They held you to 7 points and 6 points, respectively. Yes, they might have held us to 3, but we also played them in Seattle. 

 

We had 30+ on the Texans, Titans and Cardinals. Who are all top 13 NFL defenses

 

No offense, your defense is good, but it's not the best we have to face this season. Not even close, that title goes to Seattle. 

 

Especially when they are IN Seattle.

 

Seattle and the Panthers tho are very different. The strength of Seattles D is really the secondary and the edge rush. Panthers are more like SF with a good front 7. Seattle more vulnerable to the run and Panthers more vulnerable to the pass.

 

Should be interesting.

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Right...because the 49ers had nothing to do with any of the turnovers.

 

Even if you take away your magic 11 points, they won by 12. This game was also played without Aldon Smith and with a gimpy Patrick Wiilis.

 

Well, then you may want to add the turnover in the third when Zona was in FG territory, so add those 3 points.......  you lost by 1.

 

You guys didn't kill Arizona, they killed themselves.

 

If we have 6 turnovers you may have a chance on Sunday again  :lol:

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Our defensive scheme differs greatly from Seattle. You can't accurately compare their physical man coverage secondary to our cushion-giving hard hitter zone coverage secondary.

I haven't watched Seattle since they had a few of their DL return from injury, but when we played, their pass rush was dependent on their pass coverage. Our pass rush is dependent on brute power and speed from the DL.

Seattle let us dink and dunk all day, but it wasn't enough to pick up firsts.

Don't forget we also held Seattle to 12 points, half of which was scored on a CB who no longer starts for us.

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Just wanted to chime in and correct some incorrect "facts" laid out by a couple of the resident 49er fans here.

 

#1 - The score was very much indicative of the game. We turned you over 5 times in that game and held Gore to 16 yards.

 

#2 - You were stomped (see #1). And the score was actually 22-3 with 11:36 left in the 4th quarter.

 

BS.

 

Please.

 

For the lions share of that game BOTH defenses were dominating. It wasn't until the end that the 49ers defense back was broken mostly because Kaepernick started throwing the ball to blue jerseys.

 

Seattle deserved the win, no question, but it was not nearly the thumping that 'Hawk fans would like you to believe it was. Most 'Hawk fans with a clue concede that fact.

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The fact that we didn't score a TD against Zona was a outlier because of dropped passes in key situations (TD drop and 4th down drop), and an ill advised INT by Cam.

 

And don't act like you rolled Zona.  That whole game was determined by the 6 Zona turnovers.

 

Let me put that game in perspective for you.  San  Francisco scored 11 of their points off of a combined  -2 yards.

 

In other words, in order to score 11 of their points they only had to move the ball on offense a grand total of negative 2 yards.

 

Uh, what?

 

2 interceptions and 2 fumbles lost doesnt equal 6 turnovers.

 

 

And who gives a rats ***, should we not take credit for those turnovers? We also turned the ball over twice ourselves.

 

What's your point?

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The 49ers have faced only three QBs that you can even counts as decent.  Rodgers, Wilson, and Luck

 

They are 1-2 and given up 28 points per game.

 

Then they have shut down the likes of

 

Bradford

A Schaub/Yates combo

Palmer (actually didn't shut him down, they just had 6 turnovers and still scored 20 points)

Jake Locker (who threw for 321 yards)

Chad Henne

 

 

 

 

 

Yes the teams we beat also sucked, but at least we were shutting down the likes of Adrian Petersen, Eli Manning, and Matt Ryan whom are proven commodities in the NFL. 

 

And we pretty much shut down ole Russell also. 

 

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