Beason Compensation: 7th round pick

[beastson]

And probably gotten nothing at all.

And no, that isn't a better outcome.

We were lucky to get anything.

The only person that got done a favor here was Beason.

Nobody else was gonna give us a higher pick to get him. We got one from the Giants because they were desperate.

Scot you really going to convince your brain we got all we could have? You think we really couldn't a 4th? The rumor was a 5th. A 5th is higher than 7th. So how can you sit there and say absolutely nobody wouldnt give us something higher than a 7th. Players come back from injuries all the time. We talking about a 3 time pro-bowl linebacker still in his 20s who was at one point like the only player you could look forward to on defense. Highway robbery. There were no negotiations at all. Like you said we got him outta here quickly to a team that so happened to be Gettle former team. I don't know how anyone is content with that or content with our trade fiasco this season period. You think gettle tried to work something out for nicks? Hell no the same way you telling me nobody would have given a 4th, I'm telling you he didn't try to get any receiver

But like my 1st comment said, if we had a losing record lets say like 2-6 man this thread would be so different

[jtnc]

These sound like the same exact condescending posts when people defended Hurney's outrageous deals. Hilarious.

[TheRed]

Yeah actually getting a draft pick for a player who wanted to start somewhere and had been battling injuries for two years on an enormous contract is exactly like Hurney investing $90 million dollars in running backs and trading up to get players like Armanti Edwards.

[TheRed]

A 5th is higher than 7th.

 

Fascinating. Please, do tell more.

[PhillyB]

unless some other team offered us something better and gettleman declined it, I don't see how this is possibly a bad thing. worth is determined by what someone is willing to pay, and in this case it was a seventh-rounder.

[Seal (SmittyIsOurSavior)]

We can wish it was more but we need to move on. We wasn't a decent olb....not even close

 

I really hope this doesn't turn into another Julius Peppers where everyone pretends like he wasn't as good as he was when he was here doing work.

 

He was an All-Pro linebacker and, post-injury or not, is worth more to us as depth than a 7th round practice squad player.

 

I'm glad he gets to be elsewhere starting, but he could also be starting somewhere in the league AND we could've gotten more than a 7th out of it.

 

He wasn't a terrible player, even playing as an OLB this year, and I think anyone who disagrees with that is just blinded by the lights.

[Seal (SmittyIsOurSavior)]

If, God forbid, one of our linebackers goes down, I hope everyone's happy with our new starter, the great Jordan Senn. Or maybe they'd put in Jason Williams or AJ Klein, the guy who has never played a snap in the NFL.

 

I personally think depth is worth more than a middle of the road NFL punter or a 1/100 shot at a Captain Munnerlyn goldmine. A 7th rounder gets cut within a year or two 9 times out of 10.

 

But what do I know, I'm not the all knowing savior David Gettleman.

[Seal (SmittyIsOurSavior)]

To close out my mini-rant, I'd like to remind my friends here of two players that we traded 7th rounders for Louis Murphy & Colin Jones.

 

So essentially, we compared the worth of two time All-Pro Jon Beason to that of Panther legends Louis Murphy & Colin Jones. #Gettlemagic

[MasterAwesome]

Colin Jones has contributed a lot more to this team than Beason has the last couple years.  Even though he's strictly a Special Teams player, he has helped tremendously there...you all remember how pitiful our Special Teams was pre-Jones?  I'm not naive enough to give him all or even a majority of the credit for the turnaround, but he has been a fantastic addition there.  Murphy was a dud, but not all trades work out...but hey even Murphy arguably contributed more than Beason did last year.

 

Draft picks (yes, even 7th rounders) have trade value as well...obviously, as evident by this trade.  We have flexibility with that pick, we aren't restricted to using it to draft a player next year.  We can use it to acquire another player in a trade in the offseason, or more practically we could package it with another draft pick to move up in the draft...which would be extremely useful if there's a player we really like in the middle of the draft.

[Seal (SmittyIsOurSavior)]

Colin Jones has contributed a lot more to this team than Beason has the last couple years.  Even though he's strictly a Special Teams player, he has helped tremendously there...you all remember how pitiful our Special Teams was pre-Jones?  

 

Dude, he had 11 special teams tackles last year... I wouldn't quite say that Colin Jones is special teams Jesus.

[ctrcat]

I still love Beason, but it's hard to forget the huge missed tackle in the Seahawks game that would have given us the ball back with a chance after DeAngelo fumble. Liability is a strong word but a good argument could be made that he was one on this team at this point for all the aforementioned reasons.

If it's for the next Lee Ziemba then it is what it is, oh well. But it could be a Hall of Famer like Shannon Sharpe. I think we'd all be happy if it turns out to be the next Captain Munnerlyn. Only time will tell.

[MadHatter]

that's fuging retarded, he's worth more as a backup on this team than a 7th imo... even for this year... given our injury history, fug.

I guess that's probably all we could get for him but damn.

He was worth what someone else would pay for him....shock looks like a 7th. He was a player coming off serious injuries (esp the Achilles) who had not shown that he was anywhere close to old form.

He was a bad lob who was gone after the season . I am glad we got something for him.

It was a great move by the giants... Low risk and good upside. And e hoe something for nothing.

Win win

[Panthro]

I really hope this doesn't turn into another Julius Peppers where everyone pretends like he wasn't as good as he was when he was here doing work.

He was an All-Pro linebacker and, post-injury or not, is worth more to us as depth than a 7th round practice squad player.

I'm glad he gets to be elsewhere starting, but he could also be starting somewhere in the league AND we could've gotten more than a 7th out of it.

He wasn't a terrible player, even playing as an OLB this year, and I think anyone who disagrees with that is just blinded by the lights.

Peppers isn't a good comparison because there wasn't an all pro better option ahead of him.

And he was bad at olb.... like really bad.like a liability bad. We didn't start winning until we benched him. He's a mlb and we have Luke

[rayzor]

one other thing to consider is that whoever was going to get him, was only going to be getting him for less than one season. remember he's a free agent after the season is over. regardless of how good he used to be and how good he could be if, and that's a HUGE if, he returned anywhere close to the level he used to be....he was a guy who had missed the past two years because he kept getting hurt and any time spent in action was much less than spectacular. in fact his time on the field this year he had been a liability.

 

you are also getting a guy with very little flexibility in that you can't line him up at any LB position and expect good things to happen...it's the middle or nothing.

 

plus, where was the guarantee that he would be able to play at a high level once he got back in the middle and where was the guarantee that he wouldn't get hurt yet again within just a couple games?

 

you can't just look at what you're seeing now and judge whether this trade was good or not. you have to look at beason the way he was at the point the trade was made. he was damaged goods who had demonstrated good upside, but that hadn't been seen for a couple years. at the point of  the trade, even tho he had been playing out of position a little, he hadn't done well at all. there was a lot of reason to doubt that, for the 12 (or whatever) games you were going to get him that you were going to get much production. he was a gamble with very little chance of paying off. agree with that or not, but from a perspective buyer, that's the way you have to look at it.