"Luke Kuechly defines what a freak is."

[CRA]

Just curious, what makes his "film work" more special than someone like TD?

I think it is a combo of film AND instincts for Luke....

Luke even in college read and reacted quicker than equally talented LBs often...same applies at this level.

[CRA]

Cam is probably the biggest freak on our roster.

[xav8tor]

Panther players have specifically talked about the power Thomas Davis can generate in two steps and unleash.  Luke can't do that like Davis.

 

that ability to thump and unleash on someone....factors in to this discussion I would believe.

 

Luke can't do this like Davis...or anyone else for that matter?  Man when I see the gif above your post I arrive at a TOTALLY different conclusion.  Zero to sixty in two seconds flat with eight million foot pounds of torque.

[BigEric]

Our teams full of freaks.

[the butch]

This message board is full of freaks.

[LinvilleGorge]

Willis did not run a 4.3 at the combine he was clocked in the 4.3s at his pro day which are always inaccurate.

Willis combine 40 time 4.51

Kuechly combine 40 time 4.58

In fact that's the one of two combine tests Willis has keek beat in.. Look it up. The other being vertical leap (Willis 39 keek 38)

Keuchly did more reps at bench 27 to 22

Faster 3 cone, 20 yard dash, 20 yard shuttle, broad jump and 60 yard shuttle if Willis is an athletic freak so is Keuchly..

If you would've continued reading you would've saved yourself a lot of typing.

[Mr. Scot]

Hardest Hitter: probably between Davis and Mike Mitchell

Best Tackler: definitely Kuechly, best technique of anyone on the team

[jtnc]

you all do realize Thomas Davis and Kuechly are pretty much the same athletically right? And apparently pretty much neck and neck with Willis too...

Kuechly is white though... knock a few points for that.

Not sure if serious, Thomas was a SAFETY coming from college, and moved to linebacker in the pros. Thomas is one of the best coverage linebackers to play the game, also an extremely hard-hitter. Kuechly being white has nothing to do with it. Davis came back from THREE ACL tears and wears a fuging knee brace while not losing a step. That is a freak.

[Darth Biscuit]

Willis vs Luke combine:

 

Willis

ht 6-1

wt 242

40 low 4.48 40 time 4.51

20 yard 2.62

10 yard 1.53

225 lb bench 22

vertical 39

broad jump 9-11

20 yard shuttle 4.46

3 cone 7.23

 

Luke

ht 6-3

wt 242

40 low 4.49 40 time 4.58

20 yard 2.59

10 yard 1.56

225 lb bench 27

vertical 38

broad jump 10-3

20 yard shuttle 4.12

3 cone 6.92

 

Zod is right...  Keek is more of a freak than I had previously considered...

 

I always considered Vernon Davis to be one of the all-time athletic freaks...

 

These are his #'s:

 

Vernon Davis

 

ht - 6'3"

wt - 254

40 low - 4.38

20 yard - 2.59

10 yard - 1.51

225lb bench - 33

vertical - 42.0

broad jump - 10'8"

20 yard shuttle -  4.17

3 cone - 7.00

 

 

Keek is definitely an elite athlete.

[bleys]

Not sure if serious, Thomas was a SAFETY coming from college, and moved to linebacker in the pros. Thomas is one of the best coverage linebackers to play the game, also an extremely hard-hitter. Kuechly being white has nothing to do with it. Davis came back from THREE ACL tears and wears a fuging knee brace while not losing a step. That is a freak.

So is Kuechly. Only difference is he's white.

Safety says what exactly? Their speed is the same, Kuechly is a little bigger.

If you want to harp on ACL tears, I get it but that doesn't detract from Kuechly at all. But if that's a sticking point, people talk about Willis in the same light.. Kuechly is every bit of a freak as Willis..

Apples to apples comparisons of course...

[Darth Biscuit]

If you look up TD's combine #'s, Keek's are better except for the 20 yard shuttle and TD didn't bench (or at least it isn't listed) but I suspect with TD coming out of school as a safety he wasn't as strong as he is now.

[jtnc]

So is Kuechly. Only difference is he's white.

Safety says what exactly? Their speed is the same, Kuechly is a little bigger.

If you want to harp on ACL tears, I get it but that doesn't detract from Kuechly at all. But if that's a sticking point, people talk about Willis in the same light.. Kuechly is every bit of a freak as Willis..

Apples to apples comparisons of course...

I'd like to know if you truly believe Luck is athletic as Newton because they have similar combine numbers. Not saying Luck isn't, but is actually the athlete Cam is?

[jtnc]

Btw, you can say Cam is a lot faster than what his combine numbers show, and you could say the same for Davis.

[bleys]

I'd like to know if you truly believe Luck is athletic as Newton because they have similar combine numbers. Not saying Luck isn't, but is actually the athlete Cam is?

Cam had about 20lbs more weight... but its nearly impossible to claim one is and the other isn't when pointing to exactly the same physical attributes as I would comparisons to Davis, Kuechly, and Willis..

And I don't need to say those things in your second post since that would be foolish.