Well, now that the trade deadline is over, we can relax (Gordon nor anyone else is coming).

[Happy Panther]

The last 4 games we are averaging 30 points a game.  Because we are balanced we are not going to be lighting up the fantasy stats we are just winning.  I know that is passe these days.

 

Agreed. Our "crappy" WR crew are allowing Cam to rack up a QB passer rating of nearly 100 and completion percent of 65% both of which would be career highs. An no they don't drop passes compared to the rest of the league.

 

I think people want to ignore these numbers and look for 5,000 yards passing.

 

At the same time Cam is on pace to be sacked 48 times which would demolish his career high.

 

We need to bolster the line.

[top dawg]

And who are these reports from (regarding the Browns wanting a 2nd for Gordon)? They're not reports, they're RUMORS. Nothing more than gossip...the team stated again and again that they had no plans of trading Gordon. I don't doubt that they fielded offers for him, but when you "field offers" for a player you are not actively shopping, then chances are you're keeping him unless you are given a ridiculous offer...my guess would be a 1st round pick. A 2nd for Gordon doesn't make a whole lot of sense given the Browns gave up a 2nd to get him just a year ago and he has undoubtedly performed better than they could have hoped. The latest I read about this was something along the lines of a couple teams offering a "high pick and a player" for Gordon and the Browns were balking, meaning the offer was basically insulting. And this was probably the most credible source to come from these rumors...being from Adam Schefter.

For the record I have no problems with people questioning management decisions, but the manner in which you did it is petty and obnoxious. You chose the most coy and snide way to get your point across, in an OP littered with sarcasm directed towards our GM who hasn't even been with the team for one season. Oh and again, all over trade RUMORS...

Since you like to base your analysis off of hypotheticals and rumors, I'll throw another one out there: the Panthers offered a 2nd for Gordon but Chud did everything in his power to convince the GM not to pull the trigger on it because he was bitter about how our players came out and criticized him after he left for the Browns. We all know he has the ego for it...

Yeah that might be a little out there, but so is you thinking you have behind-the-scenes insight on what our GM does behind closed doors. Unless you think the Panthers should have done 'whatever it takes' to get Gordon, then I really question your judgment.

 

Your hypothetical is based upon your own imagination. I am not going to go back and forth with you about whether or not you know more than Adam Schefter about the thoughts of certain GMs in the NFL. We both know who is infinitely more credible. Yeah, Chud is so petty that he would convince Joe Banner not to send Gordon on his way, and Banner would listen to him...OK.  Moreover, as I've already stated, what they wanted doesn't even matter. If you're not willing to pay the price, you're not willing to pay the price. But, don't act like the price didn't rise with every game that Gordon played. Furthermore, Gordon is no longer worth talking about. The OP was not even really about Gordon as much as it is about the team needing another legitimate playmaker at wide-out, like we have for years. Yeah, the OP may be littered with sarcasm based in fact with valid concerns, so what?  So now you want to be the thread police also? I can express my frustration about a problem that I believe should have been addressed a long time ago however I like. Deal with it! 

[rayzor]

browns said that gordon wasn't on the trading block. it was just rumors.

 

hicks wasn't on the trading block.

 

even gonzo wasn't on the trading block.

 

what can you do if the guys you think would help aren't available.

 

now if those guys were actually on the block, esp. gordon because he was the one talked about the most recently, and they were, in fact asking for a 2nd and it was supposedly going to be worth it because he's just that good, then why didn't any other team bite? and don't give me that "nobody needs WRs like we do" crap.

 

if gordon or hicks were actually on the block and no one bit, it's because the asking price was too high for what teams thought they would get.

 

we didn't make a move for this reason...there were no real available options that would have improved upon what we already have, which isn't really bad at all because we are moving the ball really well and getting into the endzone pretty often. we have a balanced offense in which the ball is going to be spread around quite a bit. there is going to be no one player standing out statisically, but all are solid performers.

 

like them or not, ginn and lafell are doing really well, esp. ginn. how many drops have those two actually had? don't talk out of your ass, look it up.

 

cam is getting the ball out to his receivers quite efficiently and his receivers, aside from very few boneheaded drops that all receivers make from time to time, are getting the ball and doing their job.

 

what we are doing is working and it's working quite well and, get this...it will continue to work. how do i know this? because of the system and the QB we have. it spreads the ball around and spreads out the defense to a point that they are very thin on most plays. cam has good chemistry with his receivers and he throws to them enough that they can get into a groove.

 

we do need to upgrade the receiving corps in the very near future and add another top receiver to take double teams, but for right now, what we have will work very well, well enough to beat any team we face and well enough to make a decent playoff run.

 

 

[Riverboat Ron]

I read that but, in other cases its been public knowledge that said player(jamarcus Russell) was using "purple drink". Haven't seen that with gordon, to bunch everyone into the same boat seems wrong to me. Kind of like saying a person who was on cocaine (like scareface) is a crackhead (tyrone biggums)

Nevertheless he tested positive for something he knows is banned by the NFL. We honestly may never know if it was legit for his sickness or for recreational use, but it's really not something he'd outright admit to.

[Kelp]

browns said that gordon wasn't on the trading block. it was just rumors.

hicks wasn't on the trading block.

even gonzo wasn't on the trading block.

what can you do if the guys you think would help aren't available.

now if those guys were actually on the block, esp. gordon because he was the one talked about the most recently, and they were, in fact asking for a 2nd and it was supposedly going to be worth it because he's just that good, then why didn't any other team bite? and don't give me that "nobody needs WRs like we do" crap.

if gordon or hicks were actually on the block and no one bit, it's because the asking price was too high for what teams thought they would get.

we didn't make a move for this reason...there were no real available options that would have improved upon what we already have, which isn't really bad at all because we are moving the ball really well and getting into the endzone pretty often. we have a balanced offense in which the ball is going to be spread around quite a bit. there is going to be no one player standing out statisically, but all are solid performers.

like them or not, ginn and lafell are doing really well, esp. ginn. how many drops have those two actually had? don't talk out of your ass, look it up.

cam is getting the ball out to his receivers quite efficiently and his receivers, aside from very few boneheaded drops that all receivers make from time to time, are getting the ball and doing their job.

what we are doing is working and it's working quite well and, get this...it will continue to work. how do i know this? because of the system and the QB we have. it spreads the ball around and spreads out the defense to a point that they are very thin on most plays. cam has good chemistry with his receivers and he throws to them enough that they can get into a groove.

we do need to upgrade the receiving corps in the very near future and add another top receiver to take double teams, but for right now, what we have will work very well, well enough to beat any team we face and well enough to make a decent playoff run.

I think we're just trying to prove to the league and ourselves that we are a competitive teamwith room to grow.

No, I don't think we will win the Super Bowl, which really is the reason they play the game, but we will show that with a few additions that we can be a team that can go all the way.

Next offseason will tell us if this franchise is "all in". The right pieces will make this team a Super Bowl contender year in and year out.

[top dawg]

browns said that gordon wasn't on the trading block. it was just rumors.

 

hicks wasn't on the trading block.

 

even gonzo wasn't on the trading block.

 

what can you do if the guys you think would help aren't available.

 

now if those guys were actually on the block, esp. gordon because he was the one talked about the most recently, and they were, in fact asking for a 2nd and it was supposedly going to be worth it because he's just that good, then why didn't any other team bite? and don't give me that "nobody needs WRs like we do" crap.

 

if gordon or hicks were actually on the block and no one bit, it's because the asking price was too high for what teams thought they would get.

 

we didn't make a move for this reason...there were no real available options that would have improved upon what we already have, which isn't really bad at all because we are moving the ball really well and getting into the endzone pretty often. we have a balanced offense in which the ball is going to be spread around quite a bit. there is going to be no one player standing out statisically, but all are solid performers.

 

like them or not, ginn and lafell are doing really well, esp. ginn. how many drops have those two actually had? don't talk out of your ass, look it up.

 

cam is getting the ball out to his receivers quite efficiently and his receivers, aside from very few boneheaded drops that all receivers make from time to time, are getting the ball and doing their job.

 

what we are doing is working and it's working quite well and, get this...it will continue to work. how do i know this? because of the system and the QB we have. it spreads the ball around and spreads out the defense to a point that they are very thin on most plays. cam has good chemistry with his receivers and he throws to them enough that they can get into a groove.

 

we do need to upgrade the receiving corps in the very near future and add another top receiver to take double teams, but for right now, what we have will work very well, well enough to beat any team we face and well enough to make a decent playoff run.

 

The 30 other GMs argument is a bit of a red herring. 31 other GMs are wrong all the time. But, I get it: Gordon was deemed not to be worth the risk. In our case, he wasn't the answer to our perennial problem of the missing legitimate every-down-threat-to-take-it-to-the-house wide-out opposite Smitty (which has now graduated to "replacing" Smitty). I get it.  We need the piece(s), but what we have now works "good enough" (just like Ginn's hands as characterized by G-man).

 

Speaking of Ginn's hands, I listed the drop percentage of our receivers in the But, like I've also said, it's not all about drops, it's about consistently getting separation, blocking and having the mental toughness to catch the ball in key situations. It's one thing to drop the ball on first down, and an entirely different animal to drop it on third and fourth down. It's also one thing to drop the ball against bad teams, and against good or better teams (as has been the case this year).

 

If the wide receiving corps as presently constituted helps G-man to raise a Lombardi Trophy I will be first in line to have the crow stuffed in my mouth. But, yeah, I know most don't really believe that we can get to the the Big Dance this year, so that piece wasn't as critical in their minds.  "We're just not ready", right? Well I wasn't ready to say that, and I don't like resigning myself to notions of "good enough" because that inherently sets a lowered bar of expectations. But, it's probably closer to reality than not---a reality that means we'll be going forward with what we have, and hope that we can at least make the playoffs. 

[Peppers90 NC]

i dont understand why anyone thought the Browns would possibly trade Gordon.  he is their offense, and damn good player and more than likely, they wouldnt be able to replace him with equal or better talent, and he isn't costing much money.  they made a smart move by getting rid of Richardson, for a FIRST, then idiot writers just assumed they are trading all their good players away.  They are competitive right now, at least.  What, did people think they would give their best player on offense away and take steps back with a team that is obviously improving?  

[General_Purr]

You guys are just content with good enough. Shouldn't the team constantly be looking to be better? Acquiring great players help the team. Creates competition. Thats a good thing.  

[Mr. Scot]

You guys are just content with good enough. Shouldn't the team constantly be looking to be better? Acquiring great players help the team. Creates competition. Thats a good thing.

Apparently 31 other GMs are also 'content with good enough' too :rolleyes:

The whole 'people don't care about winning' thing is one of the dumbest ideas that gets thrown around on here. Everybody wants to win. People just differ on the best way to do it.

Not everyone agrees that trading a high pick for a guy on the edge of a one year suspension is a solid path to victory.

In the real world, you have to make real world decisions. You can't just trade for all the best players like in Madden.

[csx]

According to my NFL mobile app, Justin Blackmon has been suspended indefinitely for violating the substance abuse policy.