Blackmon available for trade? EDIT: blackmon suspended for season

[DaCityKats]

Given the choice between a bad transaction and no transaction, I'll take Door Number Two.

Hurney made his fair share of bad transactions. I don't recall anyone running to his defense with "well at least he's doing something.

This is the real world, not Madden 25. You can't just make a dozen trades a season and hit the reset button if it goes bad. Before you make a deal, you better be absolutely certain it's the right deal to make, because you're going to have to live with the consequences of it.

 

nobody is saying, lets make a 1000 trades.

 

but hey, if a talent is there to be had, and you can obtain that talent via a trade for a pick, you should try it. Hurney transaction was for unknown talent via the draft, while in this case and the Gordon case you are trading for talent that has produced in the league. 2 different situations.

 

in this game, you have to take risk.missing out on special talent  will have consequences as well.

[Mr. Scot]

nobody is saying, lets make a 1000 trades.

but hey, if a talent is there to be had, and you can obtain that talent via a trade for a pick, you should try it. Hurney transaction was for unknown talent via the draft, while in this case and the Gordon case you are trading for talent that has produced in the league. 2 different situations.

in this game, you have to take risk.missing out on special talent will have consequences as well.

I always love when people talk about how we need to take risks, then knock draft picks because they're unknown quantities.

Again, I'd rather use my draft pick on an unknown quantity than on someone with whom it's established that they have issues.

The way people on here jump at the chance to give away high picks for players other teams don't want just makes me shake my head.

[Kakarot]

I'd give em a 2nd rd pick.

[micnificent28]

I always love when people talk about how we need to take risks, then knock draft picks because they're unknown quantities.

Again, I'd rather use my draft pick on an unknown quantity than on someone with whom it's established that they have issues.

The way people on here jump at the chance to give away high picks for players other teams don't want just makes me shake my head.

I think the reason people don't want them varies. Some people call it a fire sale. Remember a few years ago when rumors were flying about us trading steve smith because we were losing. All the things people are saying about blackmon or josh Gordon could be said about smitty. A talented player who's troubled off the field. The nfl is all about risks. The giants took a risk on beason who at his best has proven he can play but has injury concerns. Right now it seems its paying off for them. I can't believe how you just can't see these types of risk paying off for some teams. We've given countless examples and it's like you keep thinking it will ruin the franchise. The nfl is littered with cases of players getting there act together in other cities more often than not. The Bengals take all comers Terrance newman pacman berfict and it has netted them playoff births one of the nfls top defenses. Yes taking a know player who can play with baggage is better than drafting some unknown who may not be able to play.

Who wants to waste 4 years developing a choir boy that just can't play. Yes he's a good kid who was all academic but, the fact is he's just not good enuff to play in the nfl. There are many players who get in trouble in the nfl and I challenge you to name 3 who are no longer in the league because of off field problems. The fact is if you can play the nfl will turn a blind eye to how bad of a person you may be. Talent triumphs character anyday. You can apply that to all walks of life.

[ctrcat]

I always love when people talk about how we need to take risks, then knock draft picks because they're unknown quantities.

Again, I'd rather use my draft pick on an unknown quantity than on someone with whom it's established that they have issues.

The way people on here jump at the chance to give away high picks for players other teams don't want just makes me shake my head.

 

The Patriots?  Randy Moss, et al? 

[Davidson Deac II]

I don't know, our receiver corps seems fairly solid right now. Smith has lost a step, but he can still get open, Ginn is performing well, and Lafell has been solid. We do need to pick up a receiver for the future, but I would prefer to do that through the draft than to take a chance on a guy who is one bad test away from a suspension.

Btw, don't give a crap about wonderlic scores at this stage. He has already proven that he can play in the NFL, the only issues are personal.

[Davidson Deac II]

Sadly, that approach hasn't brought a Lombardi back to DC.

But I'm sure it will eventually, right? :unsure:

Its rarely even brought a winner to DC.

[DaCityKats]

I always love when people talk about how we need to take risks, then knock draft picks because they're unknown quantities.

Again, I'd rather use my draft pick on an unknown quantity than on someone with whom it's established that they have issues.

The way people on here jump at the chance to give away high picks for players other teams don't want just makes me shake my head.

 

all draft picks are risk, but why not take a risk on a player that has proved he can play on this level already? if anything that would increase your chances of that risk working out. its time to do something different, especially when drafting outside of the 1st round has not been that successful.

[Mr. Scot]

I think the reason people don't want them varies. Some people call it a fire sale. Remember a few years ago when rumors were flying about us trading steve smith because we were losing. All the things people are saying about blackmon or josh Gordon could be said about smitty. A talented player who's troubled off the field. The nfl is all about risks. The giants took a risk on beason who at his best has proven he can play but has injury concerns. Right now it seems its paying off for them. I can't believe how you just can't see these types of risk paying off for some teams. We've given countless examples and it's like you keep thinking it will ruin the franchise. The nfl is littered with cases of players getting there act together in other cities more often than not. The Bengals take all comers Terrance newman pacman berfict and it has netted them playoff births one of the nfls top defenses. Yes taking a know player who can play with baggage is better than drafting some unknown who may not be able to play.

Who wants to waste 4 years developing a choir boy that just can't play. Yes he's a good kid who was all academic but, the fact is he's just not good enuff to play in the nfl. There are many players who get in trouble in the nfl and I challenge you to name 3 who are no longer in the league because of off field problems. The fact is if you can play the nfl will turn a blind eye to how bad of a person you may be. Talent triumphs character anyday. You can apply that to all walks of life.

Again with the stupid 'choir boy' thing :rolleyes:

What you don't seem to get is that there's a distinction between guys who get rowdy and party and guys who do things that are either illegal or against league rules and risk suspension. Guy number one generally isn't a problem. Number two, however, is a big risk.

What teams really don't like is spending all their time developing a guy and incorporating him into the game plan as a vital cog. All that only to have him go out, do something idiotic, get himself in trouble and not be available when they need him because he's suspended or arrested.

That's why these guys get made available in the first place. Have you even taken a single moment to ponder that, or do you think these GMs are willing to let these guys go just because? :rolleyes:

Pretty clear you have no clue how these things work in the real world. Stick to Madden. It's much easier there.

[Semaj]

He's a great football player not a rocket scientist. I would gladly make him our number 1 for a second round pick.

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[Mr. Scot]

all draft picks are risk, but why not take a risk on a player that has proved he can play on this level already? if anything that would increase your chances of that risk working out. its time to do something different, especially when drafting outside of the 1st round has not been that successful.

Because he's also a guy who's proven (more than once) that he's capable of being a dumb s--t and getting himself suspended, meaning he may not be there when you need him.

Again, why do you think their current teams are willing to let them go? Are the Jags and Browns just so loaded with receiving talent that they can drop these guys without missing a beat?

No. They're shopped because their current team thinks they're not worth keeping. And what do those teams want instead?

A draft pick :rolleyes:

So the GM who's seen more of these guys than anyone else and knows them better than anyone else would rather have a draft pick than keep them. This even though they're far from being set at the position they play.

And that doesn't raise a red flag with you? :wacko:

[DaCityKats]

Because he's also a guy who's proven (more than once) that he's capable of being a dumb s--t and getting himself suspended, meaning he may not be there when you need him.

Again, why do you think their current teams are willing to let them go? Are the Jags and Browns just so loaded with receiving talent that they can drop these guys without missing a beat?

No. They're shopped because their current team thinks they're not worth keeping. And what do those teams want instead?

A draft pick :rolleyes:

So the GM who's seen more of these guys than anyone else and knows them better than anyone else would rather have a draft pick than keep them. This even though they're far from being set at the position they play.

And that doesn't raise a red flag with you? :wacko:

 

its obvious that they are having a fire sale, so they can get their franchise guy in there to play QB.

lets have a blind eye that the franchise just traded away a new RB and franchise LT.

 

again people can mature, or do you think people consistently fug up. so i guess Jared Allen wasnt worth his huge contract, early draft picks after getting 2 DUI's in 2006. vikings took a chance on a troubled player, and have had one of the better DL until recent(aging).

 

[General_Purr]

I do not see you guys logic saying we have a solid WR core. We have Steve Smith, a number 3 WR MAYBE and a special teams speedy guy that is good with vertical. We need a big phyisical guy to throw at. Can you imagine if we had a Brandon Marshall, Dez Bryant, Calvin Johnson to throw at? Cam always throws high because thats where the ball comes out at. Justin Blackmon would make me happier than anything to be a fan for the panthers in 2013. He smoked pot, he's 23. Its not like he is out at clubs getting arrested. Get out of the bible belt mindset. Coming to a legit team would be good for him. and us

[xclr82xtc]

how the f do you score a 7 on the wonderlic, and be a college graduate?      #AmericasProblem