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Resorting to race again, huh? :rolleyes:

You wanna get him help? Fine. I don't see paying him a buttload of money and resting part of my team's fortunes on him as conducive to 'rehab'.

I'd rather get a guy who has the talent minus the baggage. This is a football team, not the Betty Ford Clinic.

Is he not a young black kid? That's not resorting to race that's stating facts. You keep waiting around for the Choir boys. Look at Ray Lewis you would have cut him? He was an accessory to murder. This is the real world with real people with real problems. You have to take the good with the bad. Where you see the bad in a person and judge him based on his mistakes, I see the good and the potential to be great. People can and will change.

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knock it off with the race thing. i see it mentioned again and you're gone, ok?

Wasn't meant to be race baiting. Painting the picture of his background to illustrate my point is all. I'm not a racist nor do I believe Mr. Scot to be. But different people can relate to different things.

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i actually agree with this. it's a calculated risk. we have great character people on this team. I still don't know if i'd deal for him but it's not as simple as some people saying "oh he smokes weed and he makes millions, fug him." and the bolded part is qft. it's risky but could be a major, major reward or a major burn.

How'd that go with Dwayne Jarrett?

Why waste time on a guy you have to babysit when there will be guys next year that are just as good who don't have this baggage?

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Wasn't meant to be race baiting. Painting the picture of his background to illustrate my point is all. I'm not a racist nor do I believe Mr. Scot to be. But different people can relate to different things.

i don't care. it wasn't an issue and it wasn't brought up until you did. that detail wasn't necessary. 

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Pretty much. This is what the "WEED SHOULD BE LEGAL SO IT'S OKAY" crowd never seems to be capable of grasping.

The drug testing system in the NFL telegraphs so much that you juat about have to be an absolute moron to fail a drug test.

That's not someone I wanna throw several million dollars at and have my franchise's fates resting on his ability to not do something stupid.

There will be options with just as much talent - minus the baggage - available next year. Taking the risk on a guy like this isn't necessary.

 

 

I'm pretty sure most people get that but it's 2013 and there are still people who can't grasp why it should have been legal decades ago so I think this type of reaction is the result of focusing on something trivial still being held in contempt more so than what it says about the player. 

 

granted it speaks towards someone's character who still gets busted.

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Is he not a young black kid? That's not resorting to race that's stating facts. You keep waiting around for the Choir boys. Look at Ray Lewis you would have cut him? He was an accessory to murder. This is the real world with real people with real problems. You have to take the good with the bad. Where you see the bad in a person and judge him based on his mistakes, I see the good and the potential to be great. People can and will change.

I don't care that he's black.

I care a lot that he's a dumbass.

Would you like for us to pick Dwayne Jarrett up so we can give him a chance to redeem himself and reach his potential to be great?

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How'd that go with Dwayne Jarrett?

Why waste time on a guy you have to babysit when there will be guys next year that are just as good who don't have this baggage?

For every Dwayne Jarrett you'll have a Dez Bryant. You can't just bring a guy in and turn him lose tho. You have to make the effort to turn the player around. You call it baby sitting but it can pay off for both parties in the long run. The patriots tried with Aaron Hernandez, it didn't work out for them in the long run but that's way left field stuff. I'm just of the mindset that in this business you have to take risks.

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How'd that go with Dwayne Jarrett?

Why waste time on a guy you have to babysit when there will be guys next year that are just as good who don't have this baggage?

 

two different types of talent. you can't lump them in same group imo.

 

you saying "why waste time" like it's a definite is biased...maybe it wouldn't be a waste of time, maybe they could get him turned around, thats the point. If the panthers pulled the trigger on him i would believe they would get the guy the help he needs and surround him with good people, which we have on this team. the guy is an elite receiver. Imagine him with Cam. I'm usually one to say fug him he's immature. Gordon is just that talented that people are willing to still give him a shot.

 

but this is never ever going to happen. it's not our MO and i doubt the browns would take anything for him.

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How'd that go with Dwayne Jarrett?

Why waste time on a guy you have to babysit when there will be guys next year that are just as good who don't have this baggage?

That's one instance it didn't workout only because he was bad. Even with a dwi he would still be here if he performed on the field.same situation with pacman he's been arrested 8 times since he's been in tbe league but he's still here because he can play.

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i don't care. it wasn't an issue and it wasn't brought up until you did. that detail wasn't necessary.

I hear you but I can't control others from continuing to speak on it. This day and age you would think you could speak freely in a discussion. Your rules tho

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I hear you but I can't control others from continuing to speak on it. This day and age you would think you could speak freely in a discussion. Your rules tho

it takes conversations down roads zod doesn't want in his forum.

 

can't say i blame him, esp. in a football forum.

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I really think this team needs to get over its holier than thou mentality. Sometimes you have to take risk take gambles. Football isn't choir practice, it's a controlled battle. I can almost promise you that if there ever is a battle between heavn and hell god wouldn't be sending pope john paul to the frontlines, he'd send josh gordon with a chainsaw.

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