Meeks will prove to be the best acquisition of the offseason

[Snake]

Pay attention son, because the Fox bashing went on for 10 pages before I got involved. No one is even bashing him. They're just stating the facts about Fox that he is conservative and he controls defense and what his coordinators do. If giving you facts is considered a troll then I agree I am the biggest troll on this forum.

Want see any argument from me....

Really no one was bashing fox till you showed up. One guy was venting and even said he was not making much since.

Originally Posted by CRA View Post

I'm really not trying to......just venting like I said earlier. Normally I don't engage like this on the board......just using the board as a stress reliever the past few days and decided to take it out on Foxy. Thanks all for letting me go off and babble. I know my arguments are a tad whack on this one....but at least for today....I'm sticking with it

So Im not your Son, but I did take you to school so you can call me your daddy.

[frash.exe]

Time for a Re-rail

I haven't really checked a whole lot of pages on this thread because it turned into a gigantic squanderfug, but if Meeks' leash isn't a short one, he could very well turn this defense into an aggressive, ball-hawking unit.

Now I'm thinking, with the talent level he worked with in Indy, he definitely can do it here. The Colts spent years building around Peyton Manning, drafting offensive players in the first round time and again. Meeks had an assload of mid-round draft picks and undrafted free agents, and not a whole lot else. The individual stats of each player (except for one of the LBs usually) weren't eye popping, but the thing is, as a unit, they were very effective. Individually, Beason isn't a bust, Gamble either, Peppers, Davis, all our first round draft talent, but we've pretty much busted with all the money we spend the way they play as a defense. I'm tired of seeing millions spent every year on defense only to see them rank in the middle and give up more than 20 points a game. I don't care if Meeks' scheme leaves Beason only making somewhere around 80 tackles by season's end, if that means other players are stepping up and making plays because Meeks' scheme is utilizing them better than Trgovac's, that's good news for us.

...speaking of tackles, one thing you notice about Beason's 138 if you look a little closer at the stats (you'll notice this about Willis as well), the reason he had so many stops was partly because the Panthers defense was on the field for SO many plays. Not exactly shut down defense if you ask me. The Panthers ranked 7th in total plays from scrimmage on defense,<== and this is with a top ten offense. Also, our 3rd down conversion percentage was merely average in 2008. Panthers gave up 40%, ranked 15th highest in the league. Average TOP wasn't great either, 30:51, ranked 12th highest.

Meeks I am sure is a better gameplanner than Trgovac. That AZ game was one of the poorest defensive showings I'd ever seen the Panthers play. Fitz was on track to grab 300 yards receiving if the Cards decided to get greedy, but they took their foot off the gas in the second half.

[QuasiYoda]

Pay attention son, because the Fox bashing went on for 10 pages before I got involved. No one is even bashing him. They're just stating the facts about Fox that he is conservative and he controls defense and what his coordinators do. If giving you facts is considered a troll then I agree I am the biggest troll on this forum.

Do you think we could get Collection together for Gayman he is suffering here.

This is a call for help, people.

I know it's seems funny, he could be so stupid but the reality is very sad. :troll:

He needs our help.

[Jangler]

If I see they quote him I just skip the post.

Yeah, quote him and I miss it too. But Gman has to be an alter.

[Snake]

Time for a Re-rail

I haven't really checked a whole lot of pages on this thread because it turned into a gigantic squanderf*ck, but if Meeks' leash isn't a short one, he could very well turn this defense into an aggressive, ball-hawking unit.

Now I'm thinking, with the talent level he worked with in Indy, he definitely can do it here. The Colts spent years building around Peyton Manning, drafting offensive players in the first round time and again. Meeks had an assload of mid-round draft picks and undrafted free agents, and not a whole lot else. The individual stats of each player (except for one of the LBs usually) weren't eye popping, but the thing is, as a unit, they were very effective. Individually, Beason isn't a bust, Gamble either, Peppers, Davis, all our first round draft talent, but we've pretty much busted with all the money we spend the way they play as a defense. I'm tired of seeing millions spent every year on defense only to see them rank in the middle and give up more than 20 points a game. I don't care if Meeks' scheme leaves Beason only making somewhere around 80 tackles by season's end, if that means other players are stepping up and making plays because Meeks' scheme is utilizing them better than Trgovac's, that's good news for us.

...speaking of tackles, one thing you notice about Beason's 138 if you look a little closer at the stats (you'll notice this about Willis as well), the reason he had so many stops was partly because the Panthers defense was on the field for SO many plays. Not exactly shut down defense if you ask me. The Panthers ranked 7th in total plays from scrimmage on defense,<== and this is with a top ten offense. Also, our 3rd down conversion percentage was merely average in 2008. Panthers gave up 40%, ranked 15th highest in the league. Average TOP wasn't great either, 30:51, ranked 12th highest.

Meeks I am sure is a better gameplanner than Trgovac. That AZ game was one of the poorest defensive showings I'd ever seen the Panthers play. Fitz was on track to grab 300 yards receiving if the Cards decided to get greedy, but they took their foot off the gas in the second half.

If we are indeed playing cover 2 or Tampa 2 we have the right players to do it. Beason and Davis will do very well in it as well as Marshall. Gamble seems to be good enough to play whatever he is asked too. With that said Peppers might be better because of Brian Baker. He seems to want our D-line to have more then one move and Peppers uses the Bull rush more then anything else.

The fact is we have all the Tools any D coach could ever need they just need to have the right scheme and a good gameplan to use them. I will be the first to say I really wanted Greg Williams first but I am hoping Meeks is just as good.

[Gman was right]

Want see any argument from me....

Really no one was bashing fox till you showed up. One guy was venting and even said he was not making much since.

So Im not your Son, but I did take you to school so you can call me your daddy.

How about I call you lassy instead since you're my bitch?

I said the same thing everyone else did that Fox controls the defense and the coordinators and that he is conservative. That is just a simple fact! Its not bashing anyone. Perhaps you're just a little sensitive?

[Gman was right]

Do you think we could get Collection together for Gayman he is suffering here.

This is a call for help, people.

I know it's seems funny, he could be so stupid but the reality is very sad. :troll:

He needs our help.

Gayman?:lol: Seriously, how old are? Gayman? Keep trying kid.

[carolinarolls]

ignore is for pussies

[QuasiYoda]

Gayman?:lol: Seriously, how old are? Gayman? Keep trying kid.

What is "how old are?" supposed to mean oh deluded one?

Don't fret too much we are taking up a collection for you. Maybe you can call one of your boyfriends to come over and hold you till we can get you the help you so desperately need.

[bleys]

lol, and come on man.. he'll get bored if everyone never responds to him.

That or it won't matter if he gets bored or not cause everyone will not respond to him..

[Gman was right]

What is "how old are?" supposed to mean oh deluded one?

Don't fret too much we are taking up a collection for you. Maybe you can call one of your boyfriends to come over and hold you till we can get you the help you so desperately need.

A typo! That might be your best insult yet. You're getting there kid.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

Can we get LBF back...

[Gman was right]

BUCK BUCK BUCK BUCK BUCK BUCK BUCK *flapping arms*

:smilielol5::smilielol5:

[QuasiYoda]

A typo! That might be your best insult yet. You're getting there kid.

"insult"? Delusions of persecution also hmmm Very serious condition

Calling me "kid" Wow Delusions of Grandeur as well

What stew of disorders all in one individual . . . :eek: could explode any minute

Maybe a call to 911 is in order