Ideal 1st Round Pick for Carolina [UPDATED]

[Dash Global]

I think with gman we will go BPA regardless so it's a toss up at this point my dream scenario is mike Evans from A&M but the way he's playing I don't see him making it out of the top 10....I personally am done thinking about the draft till after the season I'm enjoying what I'm seeing right now

 

So if BPA is a MLB we will draft him?

 

We wont. We will take the BPA within our primary needs. 

[thunderraiden]

So if BPA is a MLB we will draft him?

 

We wont. We will take the BPA within our primary needs. 

 

BPA does not reflect where you have stars. For instance, QB is removed from our board for the first 3 rounds. MLB is removed, you can never have enough DEs so that isn't removed despite the fact we have good ones (barring Hardy looking for a big payday elsewhere which is likely at this point). Another positions not on our board for the first 3 rounds would be RB, all others are fair game.

[CPcavedweller]

I don't believe talent and potential can be separated. Talent is a measure of potential and in my opinion your talent level is constant. Your skills may increase, but your talent stays.

[Your GFs favorite huddler]

So if BPA is a MLB we will draft him?

We wont. We will take the BPA within our primary needs.

Ummmmm that's exactly what I ment it's still impossible to tell at this point and up in the air between OL, DBS and WR we will take the BPA of what's available of those could of phrased it better in my earlier post but I was simply saying I don't think there's going to be a predetermined "we re taking this position in the first and this in the second"'more of how the cookie crumbles

[Dash Global]

I don't believe talent and potential can be separated. Talent is a measure of potential and in my opinion your talent level is constant. Your skills may increase, but your talent stays.

 

There are two measures for talent. 

 

Talented physically / athletically

Talented in regards to skill 

 

You could argue three

 

Talented in regards to mental IQ / understanding of the game 

 

Potential has to do with a guy who possesses a combination of the above but not all. Generally athletically and needing to develop his skills and the mental aspect of the game.

[Toundra]

I hope everyone is ready to select a player with the very last first rounder?

 

[goody]

I realize that this thread is nearly a month old, but a lot of you are saying OL with the first pick. I am not sure that is the case.

I think Gross will be back for 1 more season.

If Chandler continues to impress, he could play LT after getting some experience at RG.

We get Silatolu, kugbila, Williams back

We also have Wharton who could be solid depth for another season

 

I personally think we will draft a T and a G/C, but not until the third round.  Of course, much could change.

 

If a WR or CB drops to us, that will be our pick if we think either would be a game changer.  If we do not re-sign Hardy, a DE could be the choice.

 

Making assumptions like that will kill your team. 

Ex.

Dwayne Jarrett to become the next Moose

Armanti to become the next steve smith

 

I don't want Cam's blind side to be protected by a converted defensive linemen. OL is a must in round 1 or 2. Chances are a round 3 or later OL will not unseat a starter or be significantly better. That is one of the reasons we haven't found our next WR. If you keep drafting WRs in round 3-7 chances are you won't get a great WR1.

 

Panthers got super lucky with smith in round 3 but these days the great WRs are drafted in round 1.

Calvin Johnson, Dez, AJ Green, Julio, D Thomas, Andre Johnson, Fitz

 

You may get lucky and find a gem like victor cruz, brandon marshal (round 4) or wes welker (undrafted) but there is a low chance for that

[MichaelNewtonII]

I hope everyone is ready to select a player with the very last first rounder?

yeah i hope

[cultclassiccat]

best hog molly on oline, grab him.  do it again in the 2nd.  get a wr in the 3rd and bpa the rest of the way.

[IamSoClutch]

allen robinson from Penn State would be a good pick up in the 2nd if we go oline in the first. if we cant get oline in the first i think TE would be great

[Dash Global]

Our corners have played well this year. 

 

I want us to go biggest impact player in OL, WR, or TE with our first 2 picks. 

 

If a WR isnt not gonna come and and clearly be better than LaFell than I dont want him. 

 

We need to start investing in the OL. 

[MadHatter]

Extremely optimistic, but there are a lot of OTs who were DTs and TEs etc. in college before settling on the OL. I am guessing that Gross comes back--I would never put all the eggs in the Chandler basket.

Realistically, he is going to be a career backup

Agree. If he becomes solid depth, that would be a huge win

[MHS831]

Making assumptions like that will kill your team. 

Ex.

Dwayne Jarrett to become the next Moose

Armanti to become the next steve smith

 

I don't want Cam's blind side to be protected by a converted defensive linemen. OL is a must in round 1 or 2. Chances are a round 3 or later OL will not unseat a starter or be significantly better. That is one of the reasons we haven't found our next WR. If you keep drafting WRs in round 3-7 chances are you won't get a great WR1.

 

Panthers got super lucky with smith in round 3 but these days the great WRs are drafted in round 1.

Calvin Johnson, Dez, AJ Green, Julio, D Thomas, Andre Johnson, Fitz

 

You may get lucky and find a gem like victor cruz, brandon marshal (round 4) or wes welker (undrafted) but there is a low chance for that

 

My post was not clear---I mentioned Chandler as a legit backup LT IF Gross comes back for another year.  I think he wlll.

 

Great comments about WR--you mention some studs.  However, there have been many more first rounders who have not made it to #1 status in the NFL.  This year, there are a few WRs who are solid.  Last year, I was SO glad we didn't draft one.

 

If Gross does not return, you have no choice but to go OT very early.  I am guessing we pick in the 20s, so the top 3 or 4 OTs will be gone.  However, I really like La'el Collins (LSU) and James Hurst (UNC). 

 

At WR, I see 2 locks (like AJ and Julio a few years back--Watkins and Evans) but then I see some that have concerns.  For some reason, I see Jordan Matthews in a Panther helmet.

There are some very solid WRs all the way into the third round, but they would be projects.  We need a guy who is our #1 from day #1.

 

That is why I say, "Not so fast" on the OT talk--we could have Gross back, Chandler behind him.

[tondi]

I don't think it would happen in the first but it wouldn't shock me to see us pick and OLB somewhere in the first three rounds. Not saying that's what should be done but I could see it happening.