RG3 is fragile and sucks

[Ace_Aladdin]

 RGIII is going through a sophomore slump, but he will be better next year.. I think he is just getting a ego check this year & probably be a solid qb next year.

[teeray]

In my personal big 6 (I include Dalton in there) rankings RG3 and Kaep are free falling and Andrew Luck for as much poo as I gave him last year is rising fast.

[TheRumGone]

Wilson is mediocre, too.

 

no he is not. he's had a couple bad games but that dude can ball.

[Guest Spider Monkey]

Nah, he's got actual potential. Wilson might be a game manager at this point but his accuracy on the run is scary good. Russell has been slipping a bit this season but I like him more than RG3 and Kaepernick.

I'd take him over them, too. But he is nothing special. Above average ala Ryan, Flacco, Roethlisberger, Rivers, etc. Throw Dalton in there, too. Also remember Wilson is already 26.

Kaepernick is 26 too & all hype. RG3 is even more hype. Neither impress me.

Luck & Cam are the two with HOF talent.

Newton

Luck

Dalton

Wilson

Kaepernick

Griffin

..imo

[footballisasport]

He doesn't suck, but he does have serious ball control issues. He needs to learn to not carry that thing like a loaf of bread. I think he's had 18 fumbles in 19 games. THAT is a problem.

His accuracy is also spotty, much like Newton's. These guys just aren't coming out of college as polished pocket passers. That aspect is a work in progress. You see them both display good accuracy when they get the protection and they're able to step into their throws.

Name a qb who was/is a perfect pocket passer in the NFL

right out of college? The stuff some of u say is ridiculous and pure fantasy.

I seriously can't get

[Guest Spider Monkey]

no he is not. he's had a couple bad games but that dude can ball.

Put Cam in SEA & he would already have a bust in Canton.

[Guest Spider Monkey]

Name a qb who was/is a perfect pocket passer in the NFL

right out of college? The stuff some of u say is ridiculous and pure fantasy.

Name a QB

Manning, Brady, Marino....

[TheRumGone]

Put Cam in SEA & he would already have a bust in Canton.

 

RW isn't Cam and Cam isn't RW. completely different players.

 

RW makes some insane plays that you can't teach. He's a gamer. He might throw in the occasional dud with 150 passing yards and a pick but that happens to all players, especially young.

 

he is a playmaker though bottom line and i think he is up there with luck and cam for having bright futures

[Carolina Cajun]

I've said it before, I'll say it again, Kirk Cousins is better than RGKnee.  I think at some point, they will realize that Griffen isn't the answer and his style of play can't be sustainable at this level of play.  Cousins on the other hand has decent arm, good attitude, makes good decisions and to me makes me think of someone like Brees before going to NO.  I don't know if he will end up like Brees, but I think he can at least be a solid starter in the NFL.

[FootballMaestro]

Manning, Brady, Marino....

 

Only Marino would fit that criteria, especially if/when you consider Tom Brady didn't start right away till Bledsoe got hurt. 

 

Hell, even Marino sat his first 9 games (or about that), though at least he started during his first season. 

 

And of course, Peyton threw a bunch of INT's his rookie season. 

[Guest Spider Monkey]

RW isn't Cam and Cam isn't RW. completely different players.

RW makes some insane plays that you can't teach. He's a gamer. He might throw in the occasional dud with 150 passing yards and a pick but that happens to all players, especially young.

he is a playmaker though bottom line and i think he is up there with luck and cam for having bright futures

No, just no. Put Wilson on Carolina and they wouldn't win more than 3-4 games.

He is the same dude that played at NCSU & Wisconsin. Smart, mobile player but nothing special. Above average. Will never be a star but can last in the league and win with the proper team around him.

He puts up the same game manager numbers he did in college. The reason he wasn't hyped then is because he played for shitty teams instead of Alabama.

[teeray]

RG3 is fine, he missed a whole off season of fundamental development.

But he did have some Cam rookie year type misses today. One throw I think ended up in the bleachers.

[FootballMaestro]

RG3 is fine, he missed a whole off season of fundamental development.

But he did have some Cam rookie year type misses today. One throw I think ended up in the bleachers.

 

At this stage, RG3 is not a pocket QB. 

 

He's needs motion, trickery, short throws and a strong run game in order to be successful. 

 

This was clear from last year. Kaep is basically the same in a slightly lesser degree. 

[teeray]

Gotta disagree with the Wilson is just average stuff. He is pretty damn good.

The only thing I worry about with Wilson and Luck and Kaep to a lesser degree is how close are they to their ceilings.