2014 QB Talk

[saX man]

I'll give you the persona, especially after he got in trouble for groping someone.

 

What about Murray?

 

 

I think Murray can be very successful in the right system.  

 

I believe he has one of the most refined games out of the draft class with the intangibles to come along with it but his restrictions are there.  I think he's shown he is NFL-caliber accurate and has occasionally quieted the arm strength doubters this season.  Good vision, quick decision maker. 

 

I can honestly see him as a Cutler/Big Ben heir type deal.  Give him the Rodgers treatment with a good offense in place coming into the league and he could actually be damn good.   

 

If I had to choose, out of the Ms of the SEC, he'd be at the top of my list ahead of Manziel and Mettenberger.

 

My favorite thing about him is how easily he can make it seem to place the ball just perfectly for receivers in tough spots. 

[DaCityKats]

No mention of Zach Mettenberger or Aaron Murray? :unsure:

 

i mentioned Mettenberger on page 1 in my top 5, but Murray is also a decent prospect which should be a 2nd or 3rd rounder.

 

[Mr. Scot]

i mentioned Mettenberger on page 1 in my top 5, but Murray is also a decent prospect which should be a 2nd or 3rd rounder.

Sorry. Missed it.

My worries about Mettenberger relate to his unfortunate similarities to another four-syllable 'Berger' (both good and bad).

[MrPickles]

If I was a team I would look at Michael Vick and see the same thing in Mariota. I would be afraid of Mariota's durability in the NFL. Someone that plays at 210lbs will get destroyed by an NFL LBer.

 

 

Mariota is NOTHING like Vick. Have you even seen him play? He's already a better passer then Vick has ever been and he's only 19 years old! Being that he's only 19 and the son of a rather large Samoan, I'm guessing he wont stay 210 pounds for very long. Also, Mariota knows how to slide and get out of bounds.

[DaCityKats]

Sorry. Missed it.

My worries about Mettenberger relate to his unfortunate similarities to another four-syllable 'Berger' (both good and bad).

 

his arm is very comparable. i also heard about his off field actions which is as like Ben, but he doesnt seem to have the pocket awareness of Ben. but he might have the best arm in the draft.Mariota arm is pretty good too.

[DaCityKats]

If I was a team I would look at Michael Vick and see the same thing in Mariota. I would be afraid of Mariota's durability in the NFL. Someone that plays at 210lbs will get destroyed by an NFL LBer.

 

that is a bad comparison. Mariota is 6'4 which means his body can pack on extra weight and he has better decision making/arm then Vick coming out of college. if you can, please watch the game from saturday vs Washington and you will see why some think he may pass TeddyB and be the 1st QB taken.

 

here is his cutups from draftbreakdown.com which is a great site.

 

 

 http://draftbreakdown.com/video/marcus-mariota-vs-washington-2013/

[Mr. Scot]

his arm is very comparable. i also heard about his off field actions which is as like Ben, but he doesnt seem to have the pocket awareness of Ben. but he might have the best arm in the draft.Mariota arm is pretty good too.

 

The longer I go, the less interested I get in how far they can throw and the more intrigued I am by how accurately they can throw.

 

That's not to say I want a weak armed guy though.  I'm not ready to go WCO.

 

[saX man]

The longer I go, the less interested I get in how far they can throw and the more intrigued I am by how accurately they can throw.

 

That's not to say I want a weak armed guy though.  I'm not ready to go WCO.

 

 

...so you're saying you like Murray?

 

He's got an above avg arm (nothing great) with great accuracy.  They give em' crap for being 6'1 but that's not that short.  

 

I like the kid.  Athletic and accurate.  

[Seal (SmittyIsOurSavior)]

Can Jameis Winston just be the #1 pick already so we can get it over with?

 

Bridgewater is money though, he will be a taller version of Russ Wilson in the NFL.

[Lout]

One QB I've got my eye on for the future is the true freshman at Penn St, Christian Hackenberg.  I think that guy is going to be GREAT in the NFL.  I'm certain he will be a Top 5 whenever he comes out.

[saX man]

What do y'all think of Logan Thomas?  Me: I think he has all the tools in the world but just doesn't seem like a true-QB.  He's way too inaccurate.  

[DaCityKats]

What do y'all think of Logan Thomas?  Me: I think he has all the tools in the world but just doesn't seem like a true-QB.  He's way too inaccurate.  

 

his last couple of weeks has been pretty good. he has the tools to be very good, but must work on his reads and footwork.

 

[nickzz]

What do y'all think of Logan Thomas?  Me: I think he has all the tools in the world but just doesn't seem like a true-QB.  He's way too inaccurate.  

 

i think he's irrelevant if we're talking about the next level

[Mr. Scot]

...so you're saying you like Murray?

 

He's got an above avg arm (nothing great) with great accuracy.  They give em' crap for being 6'1 but that's not that short.  

 

I like the kid.  Athletic and accurate.  

 

Like? Yeah, but not strongly.  I'm underwhelmed without really knowing why. 

 

(maybe it's the height vs guys like Bridgewater and Mettenberger)

 

Thought I'd like Bridgewater less because of the 'level of competition' thing, but after watching him against Rutgers I was blown away,

 

Murray hasn't really 'blown me away' yet.