The Case of Mike Tolbert

[saX man]

 

Ok people, I want to take a sec and focus on Mike Tolbert

 

Last year, I'll admit it seemed to be a slow start initially but once we started including him in the game plan more and actually had set plays for him to work with, we had a lot of our wins. I'm not saying one change can get us winning but this seems like an obvious player to include more in our plans.    

 

Feel free to check out this game log below and also think about those games.  At the end of the day, he's one of our best chain movers on offense.  He's a bowling ball capable of running and catching.  

 

Beyond Ginn & Olsen right now and given Smitty's aging deal, this guy needs to be used more.  

 

I mentioned in another thread he had 39 targets last season.  He has *5 through 4 games.  

 

Game Log: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TolbMi00/gamelog/2012/

 

Feel free to let me know what you think about his impact. Agree/Disagree/Cam Newton talk  

 

[Dex]

Agreed. Screens and check downs FTW!

[saX man]

Agreed. Screens and check downs FTW!

 

There's a difference between a slip screen and a check down

[xav8tor]

Usually money in the bank in critical short yardage situations and it's fun as hell to watch his TD celebration dances.

[Ruff]

I think Tolbert benefits from being the third running back. A change of pace from both DWill and JStew. However, this season he hasn't had the change to make a real difference because of stew being out bs Barner being a non factor.

Also, letting Shockey walk so we could sign. Tolbert to fi the hole of a 2ns TE was one of the dumbest things this team has ever done.

[Chaos]

It seems that good things Shula happen when he is given the ball, not sure why Shula he seems an afterthought in our game plans Shula.

[Chimera]

When your O line can't block, someone needs to stay back in pass protection.

I guess we could run a wishbone, with Brockel, Hartsock and Tolbert in the backfield with Cam. That would allow the D to double both Smitty and Olsen.

Bottom line: bad O line + worse OC = players not reaching potential

[saX man]

When your O line can't block, someone needs to stay back in pass protection.

I guess we could run a wishbone, with Brockel, Hartsock and Tolbert in the backfield with Cam. That would allow the D to double both Smitty and Olsen.

Bottom line: bad O line + worse OC = players not reaching potential

 

fair point.  The OL is just killing us no matter who we have at OC and we happen to have a bad OC haha

[Frank Hollywood]

I said it before the season....Tolbert is the most underutilized, underrated player on this team.

 

 

 

I will give a member here pie everyday for a week if you can post a vid or gif of him juking out a player while running full speed.

(2012 season). That fat boy can move.

[Ruff]

When your O line can't block, someone needs to stay back in pass protection.

I guess we could run a wishbone, with Brockel, Hartsock and Tolbert in the backfield with Cam. That would allow the D to double both Smitty and Olsen.

Bottom line: bad O line + worse OC = players not reaching potential

Bring back the Philly full house!

[Chimera]

Bring back the Philly full house!

I thought for sure we would see it in goal line situations last year. Williams, Stewart, Tolbert and Newton in the backfield.... yikes.

I remember seeing it only once - between the 20s, at that.

[Jangler]

Who?

[saX man]

I mean this makes me think that if Shula can't use a pass-and-catch RB properly, lord knows what he would do with a Cobb-type hybrid playmaker. 

 

Our coaching is such a big problem right now, it's ridiculous.  

[Happy Panther]

 

 

I mentioned in another thread he had 39 targets last season.  He has 4 through 4 games.  

 

Game Log: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TolbMi00/gamelog/2012/

 

Feel free to let me know what you think about his impact. Agree/Disagree/Cam Newton talk  

 

Basically disagree

 

1) He is well ahead of pace in carries and yards this year compared to last

2) His receiving has always been spotty. He will have plenty of 0 and 1 reception games and then a few 3 and 4. He will probably get a few higher reception games.

 

If anything we are utilizing him more based on total plays and touches. Catches for a player in his role will come and go.

 

Also he has 5 targets this year with 4 receptions