"Could Dave Gettleman's plans for the Panthers future not include Cam Newton"

[Guest KingKam]

Why Neg Rep needs to come back.

 

"But report it."

 

Fug that.

Well sometimes some threads need some abuse. I don't know if people are watching the games making it seem like Cam is some terrible QB that no market is willing to trade for. For an owner of a franchise Cam is money in the bank. People forget that this is a franchise that Andrew Luck avoided by staying an extra year in college. That means, he gave up 1 year of salary worth $5 million so he doesn't play for this franchise. This moronic fan-base need to recognize.

[Mr Mojo Risin]

I agree, it's not an accurate comparison, but what else do we have to compare it to. We have had "quote, un quote " running QB'S in the league before Cam, without a great deal of success. I think that DG just wants to win and is entertaining many different thoughts as how to make that happen. Cam can win with the right game plan and help. Instead of trying to make him a straight pocket passer, get an o-line that can hold a pocket, call quicker developing pass routes and let Cam run when there's nothing there. Even this plan won't work every game, no plan will, you have to be able to adapt and this is our Achilles Hill...

I have nfl game rewind and when I was rewatching the cards game on most of those sacks where they sent 5+ guys most of the time our wrs and tes werent even looking for the ball until cam already had pressure in his face we desperately need to have check downs its like wtf is shula thinking

[Ruff]

Well sometimes some threads need some abuse. I don't know if people are watching the games making it seem like Cam is some terrible QB that no market is willing to trade for. For an owner of a franchise Cam is money in the bank. People forget that this is a franchise that Andrew Luck avoided by staying an extra year in college. That means, he gave up 1 year of salary worth $5 million so he doesn't play for this franchise. This moronic fan-base need to recognize.

It's moronic to think that Luck avoided us. The guy thought he had a legitimate chance to win a National Championship the next year. I would go back to college too.

[Guest KingKam]

Pocket passers since Cam got in the league:

 

Blaine Gabbert(Funny how people wanted this guy to be drafted as the 1st overall)

Chandler Harnish

 T.J. Yates

Nathan Enderle

Greg McElroy

Christian ponder

Andy Dalton

Ryan Mallet

Ryan Tannehill

Brandon Weedon

Nick Foles

Kirk Cousins

Brock Osweilder

Ryan Lindley

Andrew Luck

Matt Barkley

Ryan Nassib

Tyler Wilson

Mike Glennon

Tyler Bray

Matt Scott

Landry Jones

Zac Dysert

Jeff Tuel

 

And this is just a conservative list. I didn't bother to list those bums that never made it to the combine.

 

Mobile QBs(all but one is a starter):

RG3

Kaepernick

Russel Wilson

Tyrod Taylor

EJ Manuel

Geno Smith(Ran a 4.5, just in case you wanna make an argument)

 

Point is, a successful pure pocket passer is rare in the NFL these days because they're now competing against dual threat QBs with more talent.

 

Now, let's see who the projected top prospect are for the next 2 years:

2014: Teddy Bridgewater, Brett hundley, Johnny Manziel, Tajh Boyd

2015: Jameis Winston

 

The way it's looking pure pocket passers are risky picks in the NFL. Franchises have been burnt one too many times by the likes of linart, quinn, sanchez, etc. in the past. People talk poo about vick but the guy was not a bust. He's been in the league for over 10 years and he's still starting. Heck, Alex Smith is still a starter in the league because he's dual threat.

 

Pocket passer my ass.

[Wanderlai]

Manziel has the potential to be Drew Brees with running ability. I really think he will be very good in the NFL. 

[Guest KingKam]

It's moronic to think that Luck avoided us. The guy thought he had a legitimate chance to win a National Championship the next year. I would go back to college too.

Wow!!! I hope you're smarter than this statement. You actually think players care about National Championships? I guess that's what you convince yourself of so you don't fault Luck, right? So you think Luck gave up $5million worth of earning so he can win a National Championship over Alabama and the SEC that won 7 of the last 10 NC? So you think Luck put up $5m that his standford team could beat Alabama? Luck might look dumb-witted but he's not that dumb. What drug are you on!

[Ruff]

Wow!!! I hope you're smarter than this statement. You actually think players care about National Championships? I guess that's what you convince yourself of so you don't fault Luck, right? So you think Luck gave up $5million worth of earning so he can win a National Championship over Alabama and the SEC that won 7 of the last 10 NC? So you think Luck put up $5m that his standford team could beat Alabama? Luck might look dumb-witted but he's not that dumb. What drug are you on!

Where are you getting this 5m thing? He and Cam relieved the exact same contract...

And yeah, I do think some people care about winning a championship. You've never played a sport at any level if you don't realize that.

[TheGreatestOfAllTimeCam]

who the hell is Dave Gettleman though, really? He's an old, waspy white guy who is stuck in a time warp with his head up his ass. What has he ever done in this game? LOL... he didn't build those Giants for titles, a guy named Accorsi did. Gettleman is lucky he's in this position and if his big move on the chess board is to pull his Queen (Cam Newton) then he is destined to be a loser who never accomplishes anything... Cam is the only thing aside from Luke we have going right now, sorry but thats just the truth. Gettleman in my mind this is a power trip thing.... he did nothing this year to surround cam with talent and if he cant see rivera is the problem then Gettleman is part of the problem.

[Navy_football]

Wow!!! I hope you're smarter than this statement. You actually think players care about National Championships? I guess that's what you convince yourself of so you don't fault Luck, right? So you think Luck gave up $5million worth of earning so he can win a National Championship over Alabama and the SEC that won 7 of the last 10 NC? So you think Luck put up $5m that his standford team could beat Alabama? Luck might look dumb-witted but he's not that dumb. What drug are you on!

 

Andrew Luck's family is weathy. He had the luxury of coming back to compete for a national championship and get his degree. He wasn't dodging the Panthers. To be honest, the Colts wouldn't be considered a great option either. Who wants to come in to replace the great Peyton Manning?

[Guest KingKam]

Manziel has the potential to be Drew Brees with running ability. I really think he will be very good in the NFL. 

If he makes football his craft that's very much possible but if he thinks of it like a part time job like vick did he'll be out of the league and no one will notice he was ever there. One thing I know about the NFL is it's freaking hard. If you lack arm strength and accuracy you will be eaten alive on 3rd downs. And you don't have 10 second in the back field to bounce up and down to wait for your primary receiver to become your primary. And you can't just heave the ball up on 3rd & 10 in the first quarter hoping Mike Evans will bring it down for you. Although I'm for dual threat QBs but reckless quarterbacking is a different story.

 

[Wanderlai]

Andrew Luck's family is weathy. He had the luxury of coming back to compete for a national championship and get his degree. He wasn't dodging the Panthers. To be honest, the Colts wouldn't be considered a great option either. Who wants to come in to replace the great Peyton Manning?

 

All thought it all boiled down to Luck not wanting to leave his GF?

[Guest KingKam]

Where are you getting this 5m thing? He and Cam relieved the exact same contract...

And yeah, I do think some people care about winning a championship. You've never played a sport at any level if you don't realize that.

The rookie contract for the 1st overall pick is about 20 mill for 4 years. I'll leave the math to you.

 

We're talking about football here where ACL injuries is up 10 fold on the weekend nationally. I'm sure Luck gave up $5mil for the love of the game. In fact, you can argue that not only Luck gave up $5mil but also risk decapitation to avoid playing for the panthers. Now, that's funny!

[Porn Shop Clerk]

gotta have a pocket first!

[teeray]

Manziel has the potential to be Drew Brees with running ability. I really think he will be very good in the NFL.

I try really hard to study college QBs and project how

they will translate to the NFL. I usually do pretty good (or at least I think so others may disagree).

And I can honestly say I have no fugging clue how Manziel will do in the NFL. I mean like, none.

He is going yo be an interesting player once he gets there.