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Bill Barnwell on the Panthers[and Cam]

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One thing to note is as far as personel wise, this is the same team that went 2-14 in 2010. Yeah, we added tolbert, Olsen and Ginn but just think about that for a second. Cam is definitely far from flawless but he can improve. The face is, he has been playing good enough to win games. Now people are calling for benching him in favor of anderson. You put him in and watch the offense get worse. We need to get this kid some help on offense and someone able to use his strengths as a OC. Watching games sometimes, it makes you wonder does this team ever adjust? It is like they are running a script at times. Maybe it is just me regarding that aspect.

 

That being said, I am going to cheer for everyone on this team, even the coaches in hoping that we can right this ship. Hey, it can happen. we are 1-3. We started 0-2 when we went to the NFC championship game against Seattle. I still believe we can turn this around but everyone has to do their part in making this happen.

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While I agree that Cam is not the biggest problem this year, Barnwell does make some questionable comments.  Greg Olsen with one less game than most players still ranks 50th among all receivers and based on yards per game is actually above Tony Gonzales who everyone thinks it tearing up the league.  His yards per catch is also above Gonzales at this point.  He does trail 1 TD to 3 TDs but he also has 12 fewer catches. So I would not discount him at all.  Also Ted Ginn is actually doing very well this year as a number 3 wide receiver and while he may not have started on many teams in the NFL, there aren't that many quarterbacks with Newton's arm who aren't afraid to throw it deep and not worry about Ginn over running it and risking an INT.  I think by year end he will prove to be a very legitimate receiver who has earned a job s a receiver as well as a return man.

 

The other thing is that the read option is not that widely used  this year by any team.  San Francisco has significantly dialed it back and Washington doesn't use it much at all. It seems that most teams who value their quarterback don't want them taking so many hits which is the primarily reason that Rivera and Gettleman have dialed it back here.  It wasn't whether it could be effective simply that it exposes your quarterback to extra hits.  In all fairness thought, Newton seems to be one of the best at getting down and avoiding the big hit.

 

I don't disagree that Cam gets too much criticism or that the coaching has surely left something to be desired, I am just not convinced that all of his points are valid. 

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Completely agree that our WRs are garbage. I am done with Lafell.

 

As I was watching the Bears/Giants game last night, I couldnt help but see the similarities in our current offense and the Bears previous offense. In the past, I remember that Cutler held the ball too long, the o-line was awful, and Cutler got pressured or sacked every other play. This season is a completely different story for them with Cutler taking a lot of 3-step drops, there always being a check-down or quick option, and Cutler having a quick delivery. It seems that this is largely a result of a coaching staff that knows what they are doing. I just hope that Gettleman can replace these clowns before they do irreversable damage to our potentially elite QB's psyche.

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Good article, as usual from them.

 

Cam makes some bad choices, but that is going to happen.  When he makes GOOD choices, his team isn't there to help him out, because we haven't put talent around him.  He's almost in a lose-lose situation.    Basically, young QBs WILL make mistakes, but if you don't have the help around him to capitalize on playing the right way, he's just screwed.   That goes for the coaching he has to.  

 

We haven't drafted a WR that is a #1 OR #2 quality in this league in over 10 years, that is a big problem.   Cam has an uphill battle, between the critics since day one, the lack of talent around him, and also the cap situation with the team.   

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Completely agree that our WRs are garbage. I am done with Lafell.

 

As I was watching the Bears/Giants game last night, I couldnt help but see the similarities in our current offense and the Bears previous offense. In the past, I remember that Cutler held the ball too long, the o-line was awful, and Cutler got pressured or sacked every other play. This season is a completely different story for them with Cutler taking a lot of 3-step drops, there always being a check-down or quick option, and Cutler having a quick delivery. It seems that this is largely a result of a coaching staff that knows what they are doing. I just hope that Gettleman can replace these clowns before they do irreversable damage to our potentially elite QB's psyche.

 

Or before Cam walks and some other team gets blessed with his talents.

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The 2nd pick Newton threw

Madhatter kept saying it came from not seeing the field and anticipating the LB whereabouts

But... we forgot that was basically the same play the LB let Smith cut across and woulda had the TD pass if he didn't drop it. So the LB made a great read knowing they was going to go for that same play... like I said Smith was the only receiver on that side. That was just a bad play call

Cam also said when he saw Smith didn't have the right leverage he was just trying to put it out of the way of Peterson. Slants are tricky because it's suppose to be 3 step and release when the slant is covered and the blitz is coming the only option is a sack.

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Cam also said when he saw Smith didn't have the right leverage he was just trying to put it out of the way of Peterson. Slants are tricky because it's suppose to be 3 step and release when the slant is covered and the blitz is coming the only option is a sack.

Or throw it away........ novel concept I know.....

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