Panthers sign WR Marvin McNutt

[carolina-chuck]

anyone is better than AE

[Mr. Scot]

This is more a carryover from this offseason, where everyone noted that we were thin at CB, OL and WR and that Gettlemagic seemed to refuse to do anything relating to bringing in real quality players there. I'll give him props for safety, but he didn't make the moves I think many of us thought would help in terms of trades or FAs. I know we've got our limits due to The Ghost Of Hurney Past, but still.

As to a move, why not Gordon for a 3rd? Gordon is better than any receiver we'd get in the third round and probably even better than a first rounder we could pick up, and with our holes, I think getting quality starters is going to be important.

Third is a higher pick then I'm willing to give up for a guy who's one strike away from being suspended four games or more. Apparently, it's too high for others also as nobody else has made that offer (yet).

Are they're still holes in the roster? Yes. Frankly, I couldn't name a team that doesn't have any. Regardless, I think our situation was such that one offseason wasn't going to be enough to fix it anyway.

I know everyone hates waiting until next year (sports fans and long-term thinking are like oil and water) but realistically, that's when our solutions are more likely to start coming.

This year's moves? They'll do what they can, but don't expect much.

[top dawg]

Here's a quick exercise to try.

Go take a look at the league's transaction page (or Aaron Wilson's Twitter, either one will do) and check out the quality of players that are being signed by all the other teams in the NFL at this point in the season.

Bring me back the names of the future Hall of Famers that other teams are picking up while we just sit here. Show me who I should be disappointed that we're missing out on.

If trades are more your thing, give me a realistic trade scenario that benefits our team, would be agreeable with another team, and doesn't cost us a future high draft pick.

The perspective I get from people in here is that every team is making blockbuster moves to get to the Super Bowl except us.

Show me some evidence of that and we can talk.

 

Just because you don't believe that Josh Gordon is worth a high draft pick, doesn't mean everyone doesn't. I love how your tone just oozes of incredulity, but Gordon does make sense on many levels. Of course it doesn't on many levels also, but that doesn't mean that it ultimately wouldn't make sense, or couldn't turn out wonderfully.  Of course a second round pick is a "big risk", but perhaps we could talk them into a third (and throw in a McNutt or something).

 

As you probably know from my many posts, I also wouldn't mind renting Britt for the remainder of the season just to see what he's got, though I am not nearly as excited with this prospect (perhaps slightly above neutral). Due to Britt's current status in the Mike Munchak's doghouse (which is not 100 percent Britt's fault), I read just yesterday that the Titans will probably take anything for him.  Again, just because you don't believe that a move like this makes sense, doesn't mean that it is fodder for sarcasm.

 

As you also know, I would have offered something for Denarius Moore at the time, but now Oakland may not be selling due to Moore's current production (and now that Moore has shown Dennis Allen that he is not some scrub to be taken lightly), but, yes, I would definitely be willing to deal a "high" draft pick for him. 

 

In the case of Moore and Gordon, I said these things before their stock went higher, but now it's a little too late to be proactive. Basically, you have to give something to get something, and I don't mind spending a pick on a player that I know can play on an NFL level, as compared to a prospect that I perceive can play on an NFL level (particularly a high pick at the position of WR which can easily bust). It's just a matter of philosophy that certainly doesn't merit incredulity.

 

As to trade specifics, I'll leave that up to the GM. Likewise, the scouring of the bottom of the barrel for Free Agent "gems".

[Mr. Scot]

Just because you don't believe that Josh Gordon is worth a high draft pick, doesn't mean everyone doesn't. I love how your tone just oozes of incredulity, but Gordon does make sense on many levels. Of course it doesn't on many levels also, but that doesn't mean that it ultimately wouldn't make sense, or couldn't turn out wonderfully. Of course a second round pick is a "big risk", but perhaps we could talk them into a third (and throw in a McNutt or something).

As you probably know from my many posts, I also wouldn't mind renting Britt for the remainder of the season just to see what he's got, though I am not nearly as excited with this prospect (perhaps slightly above neutral). Due to Britt's current status in the Mike Munchak's doghouse (which is not 100 percent Britt's fault), I read just yesterday that the Titans will probably take anything for him. Again, just because you don't believe that a move like this makes sense, doesn't mean that it is fodder for sarcasm.

As you also know, I would have offered something for Denarius Moore at the time, but now Oakland may not be selling due to Moore's current production (and now that Moore has shown Dennis Allen that he is not some scrub to be taken lightly), but, yes, I would definitely be willing to deal a "high" draft pick for him.

In the case of Moore and Gordon, I said these things before their stock went higher, but now it's a little too late to be proactive. Basically, you have to give something to get something, and I don't mind spending a pick on a player that I know can play on an NFL level, as compared to a prospect that I perceive can play on an NFL level (particularly a high pick at the position of WR which can easily bust). It's just a matter of philosophy that certainly doesn't merit incredulity.

As to trade specifics, I'll leave that up to the GM. Likewise, the scouring of the bottom of the barrel for Free Agent "gems".

Like I asked above, has any other team's GM made that offer yet?

[TheRed]

Mr. Scot, while informative, is a traditionalist. If there's a bold risky move to be made, don't expect him to suggest it.

[top dawg]

Like I asked above, has any other team's GM made that offer yet?

 

Don't know. But what I do know is that being proactive can yield great results at times. 

[Bishop]

Marvin http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/marvin-mcnutt?id=2532909

[Mr. Scot]

Don't know. But what I do know is that being proactive can yield great results at times.

It can also give up a pick at a place when a better player would have been available.

How many times did Hurney do that?

Our receiver corps needs work. I get that. And I wholeheartedly agree with it. What I disagree with is the notion that if we don't make this move, right now, we'll be screwed long term.

Desperation this season often leads to mistakes that hurt you in future seasons. That's not what I want to see out of Gettleman.

[top dawg]

Marvin http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/marvin-mcnutt?id=2532909

 

I thought about looking this exact page up, because ignorance is bliss.

 

Now I know why exactly why he didn't stick with the Eagles or Dolphins

 

 

WEAKNESSES

 McNutt can struggle when running routes across the middle. There are consistency and effort issues when blocking and running decoy routes that aren't intended to him, and he can struggle off the line if he isn't decisive and powerful with his first step

 

[Vagrant]

We should analyze his game to death considering he'll probably only get garbage time in games we're losing by three touchdowns.

[Bishop]

 

I thought about looking this exact page up, because ignorance is bliss.

 

Now I know why exactly why he didn't stick with the Eagles or Dolphins

 

 

 

 

Exactly. Theses moves are just putting coaches and players on notice. Every one is expendable so they better pick their game up or they will be jobless. The real moves come during the off-season.

[Mr. Scot]

We should analyze his game to death considering he'll probably only get garbage time in games we're losing by three touchdowns.

If he surpasses 5 receptions for 121 yards and 2 rushes for 12 yards, he'll eclipse Edwards entire Panthers career (none of which came this season).

Heck, if he gets just one touchdown, it'll be one more than Armanti got.

[TheRed]

Exactly. Theses moves are just putting coaches and players on notice. Every one is expendable so they better pick their game up or they will be jobless. The real moves come during the off-season.

 

Yeah, I remember when Hurney put players "on notice" in 2010 because JR told him to purge the roster to prepare for the lockout.

 

Rinse and repeat with this franchise.

[Bishop]

Welp so much for my Josh Gordon hopes...its okay we got someone just as good.......

 

I hope we get Gordon I say he is worth the risk. We have nothing close to his skill set at WR.