The Thing People are Forgetting About Cam vs Other Young QBs...

[Gucci Mane]

Kaepernick- 4 Years, Nevada

Wilson- 4 Years, NCSU-Wisconsin

Luck- 4 Years, Stanford

RG3- 4 Years, Baylor

Dalton- 4 Years, TCU

EJ- 4 Years, FSU

Geno- 4 Years, WVU

 

Cam Newton- 1 year at Florida [doesnt really count], 1 year at Blinn college [title], 1 year at Auburn [title]

 

If you dont think this amounts to anything tangible, i have a bridge for sale. Cam is still growing with his game, and it sucks we havent given him the tools to become the QB we all know he can be.

[csx]

Are you saying he shouldn't have been drafted by us at #1? Was he not qualified?

[L-TownCat]

Kaepernick- 4 Years, Nevada

Wilson- 4 Years, NCSU-Wisconsin

Luck- 4 Years, Stanford

RG3- 4 Years, Baylor

Dalton- 4 Years, TCU

EJ- 4 Years, FSU

Geno- 4 Years, WVU

 

Cam Newton- 1 year at Florida [doesnt really count], 1 year at Blinn college [title], 1 year at Auburn [title]

 

If you dont think this amounts to anything tangible, i have a bridge for sale. Cam is still growing with his game, and it sucks we havent given him the tools to become the QB we all know he can be.

 

[MichaelNewtonII]

true. cam has a higher ceiling than any of them btw.

[tiger7_88]

Cam at Auburn didn't have a lot of talented receivers to throw to.

But what he DID have was a very good, veteran OL in front of him.

And because of that he was unstoppable in the best college league in the land.

[Gucci Mane]

And if you think about it, the year at Blinn doesnt really qualify because that was to prepare him for the SEC which is supposed to prepare you for the league. He only spent one year in college playing football at a level that can somewhat help you transition into being a pro.

[Gucci Mane]

Are you saying he shouldn't have been drafted by us at #1? Was he not qualified?

 

Not at all.. Im saying he is still growing where the others have already gone through 4 years of high level football.

[csx]

Not at all.. Im saying he is still growing where the others have already gone through 4 years of high level football.

 

So he wasn't ready. Just playing devils advocate....

[rayzor]

give him an OL.

give him an OC who takes advantages of his strengths and works around his limitations.

give him a HC who trusts his abilities.

give him a GM who builds around him.

give him his confidence back.

give him the ability to just make things happen.

give him a team that doesn't think that losing is ok and just something that happens that you have to get used to.

 

right QB. crappy situation.

 

[Gucci Mane]

So he wasn't ready. Just playing devils advocate....

 

We didnt necessarily draft him with the intentions of playing right away, but he proved to be our best option and an option that had a higher ceiling than anyone playing the position in the entire league.

 

I personally think he was "ready". Sometimes you just gotta get through the rough learning curve before you truly become what the expectations were.

[Fox007]

We didnt necessarily draft him with the intentions of playing right away, but he proved to be our best option and an option that had a higher ceiling than anyone playing the position in the entire league.

 

I personally think he was "ready". Sometimes you just gotta get through the rough learning curve before you truly become what the expectations were.

 

 

You absolutely draft someone #1 overall with the intentions of them starting right away....

 

When is the 'rough' learning curve over?  We're in year 3 btw

[Cary Kollins]

Great point.  Also helps to explain some of the locker room and "maturity" issues.

 

 

I admit I was taken back when the story came out about Cam working out in a seperate room and distancing himself from teammates until Thomas Davis called him out in front of everyone.  Cam has shown great strides this year IMO in that regard, and rather we like to admit it or not, he did have a lot of growing up to do. 

[Cary Kollins]

You absolutely draft someone #1 overall with the intentions of them starting right away....

 

When is the 'rough' learning curve over?  We're in year 3 btw

 

 

now you do.

 

 

When we drafted Cam that was not the norm.

 

 

Cam changed the game in that regard.

[mbarbour21]

True, mentally/experience wise he is behind. As far as talent wise, he isn't behind. Not including his 6'5, 250lb frame. Also, he didnt run a pro style offense like some others. But like he said when he came in the league, "Just because I haven't done it, doesn't mean I can't." Which is very true.

Also, to answer csx:

He was ready to play QB at an NFL level. (Hince his insane production/stats; team wins don't count as it takes a whole team to win or lose). We seen his ceiling and pulled the trigger. I believe he has a higher ceiling than any of them.

Also, other young QBs benifited from things like weak schedule (Luck), 1,000+ yards rushing (RG3/Wilson/maybe Kaep), coach/weapons (Kaep/Wilson). Not taking anything from them, but replace them with Cam and you would have got same result or better.