Since some are turning on Cam I have 4 question for you.

[TheRed]

I know we need traffic here and all, but this place is going straight down the toilet. Fast.

[TheRed]

I don't buy this poor Cam, everyone else sucks theory. You have to make the best of what is given to you. He Hasn't. The internet psyche looks at everything in absolutes. Cam is the problem, Cam is not the problem. Why can't we acknowledge cam has flaws that need correcting. Cam's flaws aren't the offensive line, wide receivers, or offensive coordinator. Cam's flaws are his own. Cam would struggle with accuracy if he played for the 49ers. All the wins would mask his flaws the way Kaepernick's were masked but they would still be there. Everyone takes Cam so personal and dare I say racial. He's our Quarterback. Most of us truly believe in him and support him but we can recognize his mistakes. We don't need to apologize to Cam for being on a team that doesn't surround him with pro bowlers. QBs make pro bowlers.

 

This whole play with what you got and turn bums into pro bowlers logic is laughable.

 

Doesn't matter who your QB is. When you have zero current starters drafted on offense since the QB has been here. It's a problem.

[KendrickPanther]

This whole play with what you got and turn bums into pro bowlers logic is laughable.

 

Doesn't matter who your QB is. When you have zero current starters drafted on offense since the QB has been here. It's a problem.

 

Convenient wording when we have two drafted lineman on IR. A quality Tight End we traded a third round pick for and a 3rd round pick from 2010 starting at WR. He has 2 aging pro bowlers on their last leg but still NFL starting quality. A center that prior to injury was ranked in the top 100. How many starters would you actually replace this year? Byron Bell, Brandon Lafell? Chris Scott maybe? That's it. None of our other projected week 1 starters would be replaced. You could find players as bad as ours starting all over the NFL. You guys love having Luke and you love having Star but fug we should have produced a number 1 overall selection for a tackle at some point in the past three seasons. Go back pick by pick and you will realize your are griping about 2 maybe 3 draft picks in the past three years. We drafted Joe Adams, everyone loved that pick.

[TheRed]

Convenient wording when we have two drafted lineman on IR. A quality Tight End we traded a third round pick for and a 3rd round pick from 2010 starting at WR. He has 2 aging pro bowlers on their last leg but still NFL starting quality. A center that prior to injury was ranked in the top 100. How many starters would you actually replace this year? Byron Bell, Brandon Lafell? Chris Scott maybe? That's it. None of our other projected week 1 starters would be replaced. You could find players as bad as ours starting all over the NFL. You guys love having Luke and you love having Star but fug we should have produced a number 1 overall selection for a tackle at some point in the past three seasons. Go back pick by pick and you will realize your are griping about 2 maybe 3 draft picks in the past three years. We drafted Joe Adams, everyone loved that pick.

 

Yeah that Kugbila pick is working out really well right now. Another D2 project. Meanwhile our OL is a hot mess.

 

We got Olsen and Shockey, then let Shockey walk and never replaced him. We brought in Ben Hartsock, the older slower and less productive (somehow possible) version of Gary Barnidge. All of our WR's outside of Steve Smith are FA, and only Ted Ginn has stepped up so far.

 

The only one on our OL that I would keep if it came down to it is Kalil.

 

Spin it however you want KP, but we have done jack poo to build around Cam. Especially through the draft, compared to other teams.

[koolkatluke]

1. At this point I would say 50/50 which is kind considering we lose more.

 

2.  Eight. Three his rookie year. Four in 2012 and one this season.

 

3. Blaine Gabbert, Terrel Pryor, Brandon Weeden, Jake Locker, Sam Bradford. This is an odd question as it doesn't reflect poorly or positively on Cam.  Only the other players on the team.

 

4. Jaguars, Raiders, Browns, Titans, Rams. Anyone can draft a "weapon" until they pan out they are just another Armanti Edwards.

 

 

I don't buy this poor Cam, everyone else sucks theory. You have to make the best of what is given to you. He Hasn't. The internet psyche looks at everything in absolutes. Cam is the problem, Cam is not the problem. Why can't we acknowledge cam has flaws that need correcting. Cam's flaws aren't the offensive line, wide receivers, or offensive coordinator. Cam's flaws are his own. Cam would struggle with accuracy if he played for the 49ers. All the wins would mask his flaws the way Kaepernick's were masked but they would still be there. Everyone takes Cam so personal and dare I say racial. He's our Quarterback. Most of us truly believe in him and support him but we can recognize his mistakes. We don't need to apologize to Cam for being on a team that doesn't surround him with pro bowlers. QBs make pro bowlers.

 

 

1. Then you would be wrong. Maybe we should bring Jimmy back so people can see the difference.

 

2. Can you name the games please??

 

3. Gabbert - I would take Short, Blackmon, and Lewis over our WR.

Weeden - I would take that Oline, Gordon, Norv Turner, and That TE Cameron over our group.

Jake Locker - I would take that Oline, That wr Corp, over ours.

Sam Bradford - I would take that Oline, all those fast WR they drafted in the last 2 years and Jarred Cook at TE.

 

Maybe Pryor is the only one but he wasn't even drafted and wasn't even suppose to start this year.

 

4. This is where you show you don't know what you're talking about.

 

Jags - Drafted 4 Wr and a LT since Gabbert has been there

 

Browns - Brought in a great OC and drafted 2 WR's and a RB Not to mention the TE that is killing the league right now.

 

Titans - Drafted 2 WR (Kendall Wright. Justin Hunter) signed the TE from the 49ers and the best Guard in the league Andy Levitre then Drafted Warmack.

 

Rams - Drafted 4 WR (Quick, Givens, Austin, and Bailey) Signed Jake Long Signed Cook the TE from Tenn.

 

Panthers - Drafted 1 guard signed Ted Ginn.

 

This is enough to make the rest of your poo null and void.

 

[koolkatluke]

Some teams sign Jennigs, Wallace or traded for Boldin and Harvin and some Panther Fans act like signing Ted Ginn is equal to those moves.

 

 

Some teams Draft WR in the 1st 2 rounds and some people act like drafting Pilaris in the 5th and Adams in the 4th are the same thing.

 

 

Lol????

 

Some people in this Fan base need to watch every game of the 2010 season again and get some prespective.

[getsome]

I am a Cam fan and will always be, if this team wins sunday and again against the rams the tunes will change. Cam has the stuff to be great, You don't shut out a team 38-0 and not have tools on both defense and offense.

[CPcavedweller]

1. He puts us in a position to lose more. How? Here is how? He rather take sacks than throw the ball away which leads to fumbles and getting out of FG range (both of which happened yesterday btw) he is terribly erratic and inconsistent on his throws, he stares down his receivers and throws into double coverage to a aging, slowing down Smitty on the wrong side of 34.

2. Lets see. yesterday Cards game, Titans game 2011, Falcons game in 2011 in Atlanta, Falcons game last season (the fumble), Packers in 2011 with his three picks, Seahawks game last season, Giants last year, Bears last season and Broncos. So atleast 9

3. Dont know

4. Too lazy to think about it

Broncos game? Was domination anyway. Trindon Holliday fumbled a ball that was called a TD. Steve Smith slipped on a perfect out route against the bears, then we played cover 3 ala Buffalo. Falcons game in 2011? Falcons game last season, we had them pinned on the one,? Cam supposed to play safety?

Cam takes sacks against a team that blitzed 60 PERCENT OF THE FUGGING GAME. Our situational play calling leaves a lot to desire. It was a lot like playing a ten year old in madden, match up man on man, rush 5 drop a DE back in zone every play and it's over.

Throw a screen pass or two and succeed them we are good. Put Cam in a desperate situation and he will play desperate because he doesn't trust the play call.

Cam at the beginning, 6/6 73 yards TD, oh wait, dropped TD. Best drive I've ever seen out of him killed by a drop. Followed by more. The Pat Peterson ball was under thrown but otherwise a good choice if put on the money. The repeat play call by Shula was a good call, bad decision. I don't think Cam saw him which means lack of vision, not mental acuity. Washington can hide behind big 6-8 Calias Campbell and then pop around.

[CPcavedweller]

1. Then you would be wrong. Maybe we should bring Jimmy back so people can see the difference.

2. Can you name the games please??

3. Gabbert - I would take Short, Blackmon, and Lewis over our WR.

Weeden - I would take that Oline, Gordon, Norv Turner, and That TE Cameron over our group.

Jake Locker - I would take that Oline, That wr Corp, over ours.

Sam Bradford - I would take that Oline, all those fast WR they drafted in the last 2 years and Jarred Cook at TE.

Maybe Pryor is the only one but he wasn't even drafted and wasn't even suppose to start this year.

4. This is where you show you don't know what you're talking about.

Jags - Drafted 4 Wr and a LT since Gabbert has been there

Browns - Brought in a great OC and drafted 2 WR's and a RB Not to mention the TE that is killing the league right now.

Titans - Drafted 2 WR (Kendall Wright. Justin Hunter) signed the TE from the 49ers and the best Guard in the league Andy Levitre then Drafted Warmack.

Rams - Drafted 4 WR (Quick, Givens, Austin, and Bailey) Signed Jake Long Signed Cook the TE from Tenn.

Panthers - Drafted 1 guard signed Ted Ginn.

This is enough to make the rest of your poo null and void.

Pryor was drafted in the 3rd round of the 2012 draft.

[MadHatter]

You get dumber with every post.

 

If that is true, give him another 3 years and he will be at the same intelligence level as you.

[MadHatter]

I am just curious how many of you will switch to another team WHEN (not if) the Panthers end up moving on from the Cam experiment and draft a real QB.

 

 

[IamSoClutch]

I'm

And before we start Cam has faults and he needs to improve so please don't say the "So Cam doesn't deserve any Blame" Line. He does just not all or half of it.

1. Does Cam put us in position to win more or lose more?

2. Since he has been a starter how many loses do you blame on him? He Is 14-23 how many of the 23 is on his bad play?

3. What young QB drafted in the last 4 to 5 years would trade supporting cast with Cam?

example (Oline, WR, TE, RB, OC)

4. What team has done a worst Job then the Panthers of surrounding their young QB with weapons?

this is coming from the guy who said Cam had plenty of weapons last year during draft time. oh my how things have changed

[mbarbour21]

1. He puts us in a position to lose more. How? Here is how? He rather take sacks than throw the ball away which leads to fumbles and getting out of FG range (both of which happened yesterday btw) he is terribly erratic and inconsistent on his throws, he stares down his receivers and throws into double coverage to a aging, slowing down Smitty on the wrong side of 34.

2. Lets see. yesterday Cards game, Titans game 2011, Falcons game in 2011 in Atlanta, Falcons game last season (the fumble), Packers in 2011 with his three picks, Seahawks game last season, Giants last year, Bears last season and Broncos. So atleast 9

3. Dont know

4. Too lazy to think about it

Seriously??? Cam was the ONLY reason we were even in games in 2011!!! He was a rookie. Also, Smitty made a bonehead play against GB that turned the ball over when we were driving down, just to mention one. Without Cam we are not even close..... were you not around in 2010???

[CRA]

1. He puts us in a position to lose more. How? Here is how? He rather take sacks than throw the ball away which leads to fumbles and getting out of FG range (both of which happened yesterday btw) he is terribly erratic and inconsistent on his throws, he stares down his receivers and throws into double coverage to a aging, slowing down Smitty on the wrong side of 34.

2. Lets see. yesterday Cards game, Titans game 2011, Falcons game in 2011 in Atlanta, Falcons game last season (the fumble), Packers in 2011 with his three picks, Seahawks game last season, Giants last year, Bears last season and Broncos. So atleast 9

3. Dont know

4. Too lazy to think about it

Disagree with many of those games.....bigger blunders occurred in those games than Cam. DeAngelo's fumble against Sea, coaching, Nakamura Atl , Norman Chi, only in the GB game bc of Cam, etc