Since some are turning on Cam I have 4 question for you.

[Cpt slay a ho]

Once again comparing Cam to Manning is a invalid argument from the start, He's not that type of qb he's a big ben type of guy who's ceiling is still up there.

 

Even the great Peyton manning had all that talent and choked come playoff time until 06 when he finally got past brady, And Peyton is still in his prime IMHO dude is set to break his own records at this pace. Problem is you guys always label anyone who defends cam as someone who can't see his flaw, well we do we just don't overblow them like most you guys on this forum......at least give cam one of these and you will see a greater improvement

 

1.O Line

2.A competent OC with a good qb coach

3.A true #2 or #1 WR(excludes smith because you never know when he'll hang it up)

4.A coach who doesn't play favorites and puts the players who give us the BEST chance to win on the field

 

Guarantee one of these and Cam will look like the HOF we all predict after season 1

[TheRed]

I see flashes with Cam but I have to be honest I have never really been a fan. I just haven't seen "it" when I have seen him play. With 2 minutes left in a game, Cam wouldn't be a qb I would want in a no huddle offense. I don't have faith in him to lead a 4th quarter comeback. He may be a good NFL qb and put up a lot of stats, but I don't think he could ever lead a team to a Super Bowl victory. My opinion, flame away.

 

I don't know how many games he's lost by himself. I don't have nfl ticket and rarely get to watch a panthers game.

 

Crazy thought here. But maybe you should actually, you know, watch a few Panthers games before making such statements?

[Cpt slay a ho]

and there's the 4th bullpoo, like Cam hasn't put us in position to score or scored while the defense pissed it away in the final minutes

[SmokinwithWilly]

So why are you trying to anwser questions you obivously have no clue about???

 

I didn't answer the question because I didn't have the info to answer it.

[SmokinwithWilly]

Crazy thought here. But maybe you should actually, you know, watch a few Panthers games before making such statements?

I have watched a few panthers games and I'll still make that statement.

[TheRed]

I have watched a few panthers games and I'll still make that statement.

 

Define "a few".

 

Do I really have to emphasize the importance of seeing more than "a few" games before making such judgments on a player?

[ClawOn]

I'm sure most of you are in on the secret that the league's rules are designed for elite QBS to take advantage of the limitations placed on contact by defenses.  This allows for the smartest, most physically gifted QBs to score most weeks at will.  Cam's shortcoming is his intelligence.  Maturity to a lesser degree.  This is his year to prove his ability to progress reading defenses, making correct audibles, etc.  It is painfully evident that growth has been limited at best.

[TheRed]

I'm sure most of you are in on the secret that the league's rules are designed for elite QBS to take advantage of the limitations placed on contact by defenses.  This allows for the smartest, most physically gifted QBs to score most weeks at will.  Cam's shortcoming is his intelligence.  Maturity to a lesser degree.  This is his year to prove his ability to progress reading defenses, making correct audibles, etc.  It is painfully evident that growth has been limited at best.

 

Ahhhhhhhhh. The old "intelligence" knock we keep hearing about. Or is that code for something else entirely? Seems to be.

[koolkatluke]

I have watched a few panthers games and I'll still make that statement.

 

And you don't know what the fug you're talking about so why are you even in this topic???

 

 

As soon as you typed "I don't watch a lot of panther Games" it made every thing you say about the panthers Full of poo and pretty much worthless.

 

Your opinion is dick so you can keep it.

[koolkatluke]

Ahhhhhhhhh. The old "intelligence" knock we keep hearing about. Or is that code for something else entirely? Seems to be.

 

I've notice no one ever questioned David Carr, Tim Couch, Blaine Gabbert, Jimmy Clausen, and Joey Harrington intelligence.

[mav1234]

honestly everyone has a right to their opinion ,and to share it however they wish..

but if you don't actually watch Cam play, you're going to have a very, very different view of him than if you watch him play and listen to the crazy commentary out there on him.

 

from listening to the media, Cam has been abysmal this year and has been unable to do anything.  But that's not true... at all.  The offense hasn't been good, yet Cam had one of his best seasons going until Arizona took advantage of the fact that Shula can't figure out how to adjust anything in game.  And yes, Cam sucked too in the second half, and deserves some of the blame for that loss.  And that's with us seemingly avoiding having him run...

 

But this idea that he's washed up, the "next Freeman," worse than Geno smith, needs to be traded to the Browns, or is too stupid to read an NFL defense?  Bullshit, all of it.

[TheRed]

I've notice no one ever questioned David Carr, Tim Couch, Blaine Gabbert, Jimmy Clausen, and Joey Harrington intelligence.

 

Yup. Throw Sam Bradford in there too. He's pretty much the forgotten man in the NFL right now.

[koolkatluke]

"I don't watch the panther's Game but I have a strong opinion on Cam"

 

 

Yeah Buddy I care what you think.

[RudieCantFail]

People also question Jay Cutler, Matt Schaub, and Brandon Weeden's intelligence and decision making. Quit making it about race guys, unintelligence applies to everybody.