Since some are turning on Cam I have 4 question for you.

[Qu1million]

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[Lakelover]

Is the CamHuddle?

[footballisasport]

I am both a lover of the game of football and an observer. Must be the Psychologist in me that tend to psycho-analyze how these players are treated both in and out of the media.

 

What I've noticed is, when it comes the "chosen" QBs, less expectations are placed on them by the media. In other words, standards are set lower for them, so they are given a chance to grow into their HYPE. But other not so worthy QBs, and QBs who the media feel shouldn't be Starters or even worst Franchised QBs, have extremely unrealistic standards placed on them in hopes that they either fail or get burnt out.

 

Guys like Luck, Matt Stafford, Sam Bradford, Blaine Gabbert and even Peyton Manning were the media's "chosen QB." If you look at how they are treated, their every mistake and flaws, all but get ignored or demands are made of their teams to step up to help make them the QBs those in the media predict they will be. The whole mindset is less these QBs and more the attitude of those in the media cannot ever look wrong.

 

QBs like Cam, RG III Wilson, Vick, Colin, Cutler, and others, are the QBs who either aren't considered "worthy" of being the media's "Chosen," so they are more scrutinized and the pressure to "not make mistakes" is ratcheted up to an unrealistic level, simply so they will either fail or burn out.

 

In the mean, QBs like Luck are forever placed in the same light with the "inferior" QBs when they accomplish a great feat. Giving the impression that Luck is just as good, even if he really isn't. And when QBs like Luck, do accomplish something decent, such as he did on Sunday, the hype is through the roof.

 

Such is the reality of not only the media but the many who buy into their Psychology.

 

Unfortunately, many of you on here  fit into the catagory of fans who buy into the media's Psychology. your epection of Cam is so unrealistic that you refuse to give him room to grow.  You don't allow him to make mistakes nor do you demand more from your team in order to help Cam become a stronger QB. Nope! Instead  you will ignore all that he does on the field and make an issue out of something that he may or may not have done in the first place.  Which in turn causes Cam to put even more unrealistic pressure on himself to carry this team. Instead of him being treated like Luck and have the team do everything they can to help him become your Franchised QB.

 

That sad reality of Cam the Panthers' QB.  

[Chimera]

Disagree with many of those games.....bigger blunders occurred in those games than Cam. DeAngelo's fumble against Sea, coaching, Nakamura Atl , Norman Chi, only in the GB game bc of Cam, etc

the GB game in which the officials took two TDs off the scoreboard and forced us to settle for field goals? The same refs that called a pass that Woodson caught off a bounce an interception? The game when the D gave up an ~85 yard TD pass in the 4th?

Yep, Cam's fault.

[blak-n-blu]

 

Things are less complex than it seems. Watch the game with no bias this weekend. 

Just observe Cam's...

pocket awareness, progression reading, decision making, mechanics, does he hold on to the ball too long, does he process information too slowly, does he make silly gestures after a first down, the list goes on... get back to me on MONDAY with your report. I'll be waiting for your psycho-analysis  

[Navy_football]

Cam needs to accept that he has good-not-great recieving options (including Smitty) and take over games himself. If the play isn't there, just run the ball. There have been plenty of times when he could have just run the ball, but he hangs in the pocket trying to give his WRs time to get open.

 

If it isn't there, don't force it, just take off. I think he's trying so hard to break the running QB stigma attached to him, that he limits the number of times he'll bring the ball down and take off. If you need to take off 4 or 5 runs in a row, then do it. He's not the type of QB to get arm tackled by a DE or DT if he takes off through the middle of the line on a pass play when none of his WRs are open. Take the 5 yards, keep the chains moving, and give your guys another chance to make a play.

 

I must admit though, he has gotten much more accurate in his short to intermediate passes. I mean he's really accurate now. But he needs to work on his touch. Every pass doesn't need to be 90+%. Alot of times a 60% pass is enough. And it gives WRs a chance to make a play on the ball. His passes get there so fast, you either catch it at first touch or you miss it. None of that bobbling or adjusting stuff with Cam.

 

Also noticed that WRs aren't winning battles for him. They hardly ever win the 50/50 passes when it can go either way. Watch Indy and Seattle. Their WRs make plays, even on bad throws. And they break tackles and get YAC. And it has nothing to do with the placement of the ball - maybe ball velocity, but they're just better.

 

Cam can make throws that Luck and Wilson still can't make - which may be a part of the problem. He just needs to work on his decision making, and focus on moving the chains every play.

[Navy_football]

Things are less complex than it seems. Watch the game with no bias this weekend. 

Just observe Cam's...

pocket awareness, progression reading, decision making, mechanics, does he hold on to the ball too long, does he process information too slowly, does he make silly gestures after a first down, the list goes on... get back to me on MONDAY with your report. I'll be waiting for your psycho-analysis  

 

His pocket awareness probably does need some work. I would try to get him outside of the pocket as much as possible if I were calling plays.

 

His progression reading is fine. He surveys the field pretty well when he has some time - 2.5 seconds is not time to go through your progressions.

 

Mechanics will always be a problem for him. But he has enough arm strenth to make throws with bad form, if he's made the right decision on  who to throw the ball to.

 

I think he tends to hold the ball too long as he's waiting on his WRs to get open, and when they don't, he's forcing the throw. He needs to be more open to just pulling the ball down and running. Move the chains and give your team/OC another chance to make a play/call.

[Silent Majority]

I am just telling you what he told me.

And, it is true. When you struggle with progressions and reading defenses, you tend to not move away from your primary receiver....staring them down and trying to force it to them.

This is the passing game that they ran at Auburn (same as Vick ran at VT). You have one (maybe two) receiving options. If they were not immediately there, they pulled it down and ran. Cam was never in an offense that required him to sit in the pocket and go through his progressions (4-5 options). He is still struggling with this. Not saying that he can't learn and overcome it....just that he has not really done so in 2+ seasons.

Bullshit

A QB who can't read defenses doesn't force throws to the primary, they check the ball down or go to the TE. Check, downs are almost always open, because they are easily contained. Why in the hell would a coaching staff, that believes their QB cannot read defenses, ask said QB to go vertical 20+ yards CONSTANTLY? fuging clown ass fans, man.

[WOW!!]

1. first off, take moment...breathe...get the wind in you... relax a little.. now...

why don't we just cry and whine when we don't have the best player at every position there is (its just not fair!)

PHINS, JETS, CARDS, CHARGES, AINTS, BROWNS, N.E., NYG, RAMS, even ATL look worst at RB situation.. 

besides, all great QBs never had a running attack.. marino, peyton, brady(now), cam newton??

 

2. sorry, obviously, you're a statistician.. what do I know.. I, mean, all I do is watch games..

you psycho-analyze players stats and already know who's productive or not.. the x's and o's are your variables..   

if my recollection serves me right, your boy, lafell had zero targets the first game.  you'r'e right, lafell is trash..

but what do you expect when 88+89 see 95% of the targets? want him to break 80 yards every time he touches the ball?

 

3. britt wouldn't be much better than lafell, if at all, playing with killa Cam

and if britt is your ideal WR, then, good for you.. want to play fantasy?

 

4. right. not his fault. damn coaches 

 

I'm not cutting down Cam... simply stating that.. Hixon was good enough in NY to warrant 3rd/4th option at reciever...that should be more than enough for Cam to work with, especially, considering Cruz and Hicks there in Ny..

 

Recap

 

1. Having AP on the Panthers wouldn't make a difference.

 

2. Lafell dropping passes has no effect on his targets.

 

3. Kenny Britt isn't a upgrade over Lafell.

 

4. The same Cam hater trick of putting words in people mouths.

 

Did I miss anything??

 

[blak-n-blu]

Recap

 

 

1. Fans crying because we don't have the best players at their position.  Lets be real, not hypothetical..

i bet D.Lo will do better than AP this weekend.. bank it.. the only AP making news this week......Associated Press..

  

2. 88+89 probably drop more passes combined than Lafell got targeted this year.. and in no way am I praising Lafell...

I'm just saying somebody needs quit relying on certain players to bail them out all the time and make something happen themself

 

3. uh.. no! what you think bringing in Kenny Britt gonna do something? what year is this?? 2011?? 2010?? 2009! 

when has kenny britt ever been relevant for you to even mention his name?  Like he somebody to be reckon with...GTFO!

 

4. I don't get me wrong.. I don't hate Cam, I just don't love him (fake smile!)

simply put.. I think we got serviceable WRs.. Cam just gotta know when/how to get the ball to them.

 

[CatMan72]

My question for people turning on Cam is: ARE YOU F*CKING RETARDED?

[footballisasport]

Things are less complex than it seems. Watch the game with no bias this weekend. 

Just observe Cam's...

pocket awareness, progression reading, decision making, mechanics, does he hold on to the ball too long, does he process information too slowly, does he make silly gestures after a first down, the list goes on... get back to me on MONDAY with your report. I'll be waiting for your psycho-analysis  

 

And what is wrong with the rest of your team?  Maybe you need to pay as much attention to them as you seem to do with Cam, then you can get back to me on Monday.

 

As I've stated before, there is a reason why the media aren't scutinizing Luck the way they are Cam. They know how the football fans think. They know the sort of energy they want to create around certain players. Some of you will spend all day pointing out all of Cam's flaws without thinking much of it,  as if that is suppose to give you some gratification or something.

 

I even believe some of you don't even see Cam as human...Hmmmmm

 

 

[MadHatter]

Bullshit

A QB who can't read defenses doesn't force throws to the primary, they check the ball down or go to the TE. Check, downs are almost always open, because they are easily contained. Why in the hell would a coaching staff, that believes their QB cannot read defenses, ask said QB to go vertical 20+ yards CONSTANTLY? fuging clown ass fans, man.

Don't care if your worthless ass believes it. I know that the conversation did happen at the beginning of last season because I was fuging there...you ass clown.

Asking a QB to go vertical gas nothing to do with his ability to effectively read defenses. All you need to do us have his primary receiver running deeper patterns.

The coach who said this was not the OC and us no longer on the team. Is he full if poo? Was he disgruntled? Don't know....all I know us that he said that he struggled at this and it was an area of focus for his development.

[blak-n-blu]

I even believe some of you don't even see Cam as human...Hmmmmm

I do.. I see him as an average joe... so benching him isn't out of the question then right? he aint superman..

 

and as for the rest of the team? offensively, the rbs and the o-line looks to be ok so far, the rest- they all look like they're just there to be there..... hard to tell when the QB is still processing information and taking sacks. when he does put the ball out there, recievers got to make the most amazing catches just to haul them in.. but I will.. I'll take note of it.. you do the same!