Since some are turning on Cam I have 4 question for you.

[ClawOn]

Ahhhhhhhhh. The old "intelligence" knock we keep hearing about. Or is that code for something else entirely? Seems to be.

 

Such a sad red herring.  None of your damn business but I happen to be African American.  You ever listen to Russell Wilson speak?  He's clearly educated and has clearly dedicated time to making himself better in many respects.  Same with RG3.  There have easily been dozens of high round white QBs that were too stupid and selfish to succeed.  Heard of Ryan Leaf?  Does it look like the light is on in Brady Quinn's brain?  

[TheRed]

Such a sad red herring. None of your damn business but I happen to be African American. You ever listen to Russell Wilson speak? He's clearly educated and has clearly dedicated time to making himself better in many respects. Same with RG3. There have easily been dozens of high round white QBs that were too stupid and selfish to succeed. Heard of Ryan Leaf? Does it look like the light is on in Brady Quinn's brain?

I don't care what you look like.

Fact of the matter is. I rarely if at all, hear people questioning white quarterbacks intelligence on such a regular basis.

Remember Rob Parker and his comments about Robert Griffin being a "cornball brother"? The ignorance is there.

[IamSoClutch]

I guess I have to keep admitting I was wrong over and over again for you right??

 

 

If you had been here during TC you would have notice I was changing when they were Talking up Armanti.

 

well i resect you admitting you were wrong kkl. i just thought it was clearly obvious that Cam has lacked weapons since he's been in carolina. so do you now want a reciever in round one. i think i remember reading a post were you agree with me that mike evans is the best wr options for Cam

[blak-n-blu]

And before we start Cam has faults and he needs to improve so please don't say the "So Cam doesn't deserve any Blame" Line. He does just not all or half of it.

 

 

1. Does Cam put us in position to win more or lose more?

 

2. Since he has been a starter how many loses do you blame on him? He Is 14-23 how many of the 23 is on his bad play?

 

3. What young QB drafted in the last 4 to 5 years would trade supporting cast with Cam?

example (Oline, WR, TE, RB, OC)

 

4. What team has done a worst Job then the Panthers of surrounding their young QB with weapons?

I didn't bother to read this thread.. excuse me if what i've said has already been posted..

 

1. push.. because you never know what you'll get out of cam

 

2. over half of the 23 loses

 

3. ALL QBs drafted since 2009

 

4. patriots (THIS YEAR), raiders, titans, seahawks, vikings all have terrible WR corps

[mc52beast]

Yes the team has issues besides Cam, but Cam is still making the same mistakes in his 3rd year that he made as a rookie. Not sure if its the coaching or if he is unable to fix these things...

 

[BigBoss]

1. He puts us in a position to lose more. How? Here is how? He rather take sacks than throw the ball away which leads to fumbles and getting out of FG range (both of which happened yesterday btw) he is terribly erratic and inconsistent on his throws, he stares down his receivers and throws into double coverage to a aging, slowing down Smitty on the wrong side of 34.

2. Lets see. yesterday Cards game, Titans game 2011, Falcons game in 2011 in Atlanta, Falcons game last season (the fumble), Packers in 2011 with his three picks, Seahawks game last season, Giants last year, Bears last season and Broncos. So atleast 9

3. Dont know

4. Too lazy to think about it

 

A shame a great post like this is just attributed as stupid. It's reasonable and quite frankly correct.

 

 

4 different games last two years where Cam could have been the difference between losing and winning and we've lost because of him. That's 10-6 year one and 11-5 year two.

 

 

 

I have a question also for the many of you.... what have Russel Wilson, Andy Dalton, RG3, Andrew Luck, Geno Smith, Christian Ponder, Ryan Tynahill, had that Cam Newton has NEVER had?

 

A winning record and in the case of almost all of the QB's above, they've been to the playoffs. When does Cam receive blame for what our squad is? Do we have to go through 2-3 more years of coaches before it's also his fault?

[TheRed]

This fan base deserves a mediocre team.

[Makish]

The defense is ranked 3 in the NFL

 

The defense gives up 14 points a game( second in the league)

 

the whole offense is the problem not only Cam

[BigBoss]

The defense is ranked 3 in the NFL

 

The defense gives up 14 points a game( second in the league)

 

the whole offense is the problem not only Cam

 

I agree. I don't at all think Cam is solely responsible for the problems of the offense, certainly there are quite a few.

[GSO_Pantherz]

The defense is ranked 3 in the NFL

The defense gives up 14 points a game( second in the league)

the whole offense is the problem not only Cam

The QB will always get the lion's share of the blame, especially a third year QB. I was very forgiving of Cam during his rookie year and even in his second 'sophomore slump' season. But many including myself have agreed that year three is where the excuses need to be put aside and winning was a must. So, he gets some criticism from me based on our record thus far.

[Makish]

The QB will always get the lion's share of the blame, especially a third year QB. I was very forgiving of Cam during his rookie year and even in his second 'sophomore slump' season. But many including myself have agreed that year three is where the excuses need to be put aside and winning was a must. So, he gets some criticism from me based on our record thus far.

Cam does deserve some of the blame but some of our play calling is terrible too

 

6 times  i've seen on 3rd and 3 or less, our dumbass OC runs 10-15 yard routes for all  receiving option on the field

 

ive seen CB give Ginn a 10 yard cushions and all they have Ginn run is go routes( need to audible and run slants or in routes)

 

ANd our  terrible terrible coach will not change the gameplan at all 

 

ex. at half against the Cards we ran the same plan as in the first half( no adjustments)= 60 total yards in the second half

 

Cards HC Arians  adjusts his gameplan to what he saw on the field in the first half= 19 second half points and a win

[koolkatluke]

well i resect you admitting you were wrong kkl. i just thought it was clearly obvious that Cam has lacked weapons since he's been in carolina. so do you now want a reciever in round one. i think i remember reading a post were you agree with me that mike evans is the best wr options for Cam

 

I want a Wr drafted in the 1st and 4th or 5th round. Plus a higher priced FA brought in.

 

I like Mike Evans and I would love to get our Hands on the TE from UNC.

[koolkatluke]

I didn't bother to read this thread.. excuse me if what i've said has already been posted..

 

1. push.. because you never know what you'll get out of cam

 

2. over half of the 23 loses

 

3. ALL QBs drafted since 2009

 

4. patriots (THIS YEAR), raiders, titans, seahawks, vikings all have terrible WR corps

 

You could have kept these dumb ass answer to yourself troll.

 

Titans, Vikings and Seahawks have 2 WR that have put up better numbers then our 2nd, 3rd, and 4th WR put together.

[koolkatluke]

A shame a great post like this is just attributed as stupid. It's reasonable and quite frankly correct.

 

 

4 different games last two years where Cam could have been the difference between losing and winning and we've lost because of him. That's 10-6 year one and 11-5 year two.

 

 

 

I have a question also for the many of you.... what have Russel Wilson, Andy Dalton, RG3, Andrew Luck, Geno Smith, Christian Ponder, Ryan Tynahill, had that Cam Newton has NEVER had?

 

A winning record and in the case of almost all of the QB's above, they've been to the playoffs. When does Cam receive blame for what our squad is? Do we have to go through 2-3 more years of coaches before it's also his fault?

 

You will notice that most of the Turds who join here and make stupid comments about Cam.

 

Have low post counts and just joined the forum.

 

 

Proving again that Cam has such a hate  faction that they will Troll a 1-3 team MB just to talk about Cam.

 

You can visit the Jags board and you won't find people just joining to bash Gabbert.