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Other Teams Have A heightened Intesity while Playing Carolina

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On what paper? Maybe teams do fear Cam, but what else?

 

This team is just not as talented as people on this board claim. I think some of the ridiculous stats put up by Chud and Cam his first two years have blinded some folks.

 

Running back? Williams and Tolbert are simply both fairly pedestrian. Williams has been in the league for going on 8 years, which in NFL years is an eternity for that position. Pretty sure Tolbert was undrafted free agent. He played a few years in San Diego but basically the Panthers picked him up as a free agent.. He's kind of a tweener player with his natural position being fullback so you are not going to line him up and run him 20 times per game and get 100 yards out of him.  Texans got blown out tonight and they have Ben Tate and friggin Arian Foster in their backfield. Both those guys would put Williams and Tolbert on the bench permanently and there are quite few running back lineups that would do the same.

 

WR? The best WR on this time is a future HOF'er, but let's be honest Smith will retire in a year or two, and there goes the number one receiver and the most dynamic playmaker on team other than Cam. His rookie season was in 2001 after all. Dude is not going to play forever. The rest have been inconsistent throughout most of their careers. Ginn was cut by the Dolphins where he was a total flop. I think he was drafted 9th overall and at time it was considered to be one of the most questionable picks in the draft. He has flashes of brilliance as special teams player, but he has never been that consistent as a go-to receiver. I don't even really know what to think about Lafell. He seems to have more than his share of drops though. Olsen is a great pass catching TE, but he struggles a lot in other areas. Chicago traded him for a third round pick.

 

Those are just the skill players, nevermind the Oline deficiences.

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The answer is simple, it is because for about a decade we ALWAYS play down to our competition.  Poster above is wrong on a few accounts.  We have a great RB core and I would bet over half the league would trade theirs for ours.   Tolbert came here because he's FROM here, and took a pay cut actually.  We don't use him correctly.   Ginn has had questionable QBs in his career and yeah, has been a poor WR in the past, but he's also on a 1-year deal and cheap.  Olsen was traded because their coach at the time never used TEs, and we got a STEAL we just forget he's on the roster, even after a 5 catch 79 yard first half we forget about him.

 

Face it, our coaches just don't motivate our players.  We need more than yes-men that JR brings in on the cheap.

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The answer is simple, it is because for about a decade we ALWAYS play down to our competition. Poster above is wrong on a few accounts. We have a great RB core and I would bet over half the league would trade theirs for ours. Tolbert came here because he's FROM here, and took a pay cut actually. We don't use him correctly. Ginn has had questionable QBs in his career and yeah, has been a poor WR in the past, but he's also on a 1-year deal and cheap. Olsen was traded because their coach at the time never used TEs, and we got a STEAL we just forget he's on the roster, even after a 5 catch 79 yard first half we forget about him.

Face it, our coaches just don't motivate our players. We need more than yes-men that JR brings in on the cheap.

Most of the league would not trade for our RB corp....it isn't that good now. A 30 yr old RB and a injury plagued RB isn't anyone's dream squad

RB group gets the 89 treatment...nowhere near as good as we act presently

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Most of the league would not trade our RB corp....it isn't that good now. A 30 yr old RB and a injury plagued RB isn't anyone's dream squad

RB group gets the 89 treatment...nowhere near as good as we act presently

 

I agree about Smith, but not about RB's (I'm taking the money aspect out though and going by pure talent).  DWill, Tolbert, Stew (if he can come back) is still a good trio.    DWill is averging 4.5 ypc this year and is almost in the top 10 in yards (behind some because of early bye week).  I'm sure Green Bay fans would love to have this core.   DWill is 30 but hasn't had much wear and tear the last 5 years on him, he's not like Turner who ran all day.  

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I agree about Smith, but not about RB's (I'm taking the money aspect out though and going by pure talent). DWill, Tolbert, Stew (if he can come back) is still a good trio. DWill is averging 4.5 ypc this year and is almost in the top 10 in yards (behind some because of early bye week). I'm sure Green Bay fans would love to have this core. DWill is 30 but hasn't had much wear and tear the last 5 years on him, he's not like Turner who ran all day.

Good....yes.

Nothing people are overly envious of.

Williams is good. Not great now. Only reasons he ranks well in yards is bc he is being used as a featured RB and few teams do that.

RB production for our team.....actually isn't that good this year compared to what other teams are getting

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Good....yes.

Nothing people are overly envious of.

Williams is good. Not great now. Only reasons he ranks well in yards is bc he is being used as a featured RB and few teams do that.

RB production for our team.....actually isn't that good this year compared to what other teams are getting

 

I'm not saying we're amazing or anyone is "envious" but we ARE #13 in rushing in the league right now.  So more than half the teams in the league are doing worse than us.  So money aside, yes, I believe a good chunk of teams would take our core over theirs.  

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In referencing the OP, why wouldn't you be happy to play the Panthers? If the other team an keep it close, during the first half, guaranteed victory in the second half.

We will get beaten with adjustments every time.

It's very frustrating trying to love this team, It's like Cleveland with Lebron. Keek and Cam are doomed to mediocrity with this staff. I need a nap I am mentally exhausted!

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