Time to put something on Cam

[TheRed]

Stop being so defensive. So definitive. Learn to have a conversation.

Yes it's all my fault. Silly me for wanting actual proof for outrageous claims.

Well you sure backed your way out of that in a hurry. Get back to me when you come up with that proof beach.

[TheRed]

They're not that outrageous bud

Hey look, here's beach putting himself directly into the conversation and stating baseless information as fact.

Might want to change the subject again..

[davos]

Yes it's all my fault. Silly me for wanting actual proof for outrageous claims.

Well you sure backed your way out of that in a hurry. Get back to me when you come up with that proof beach.

 

Still so defensive, what are you even talking about?  You're fault?  proof about what?  I'm not trying to prove anything to you.  

[davos]

You're trying to be a Hannity but coming across like Gretta Van Sustron 

[TheRed]

Yeah that's totally relevant to what you've been alleging in this thread.

If you can't stay on the topic at hand, just man up and bow out.

[davos]

Elaborate on what you think I'm alleging for because you seem to be lumping me with this whole the world vs. Cam deal.  

[beastson]

Yall need to stop this putting blame here and there crap

 

The whole team sucks

 

You cant  say Cam takes the blame, but turn around and say yea the oline is bad and our receivers suck. Which one is it?

 

Our offensive philosophy is a problem. We still playing like we're in 2003, as opposed to 2013 put as many points on the board as possible in the fastest time. Maybe our offensive philosophy has to compensate on what we have, average to bad receivers. We're don't spread out like Denver/Dallas were today. Who would have thought once we signed Ginn he would CLEARLY be our best WR

[TheRed]

Cam cannot read defenses and is not a leader. That's his 2 biggest problems. He is a great physical specimen though but that doesn't win many games.

This right here is what many will deny/rip on for a while but at the end of the day, there is truth in this.

And of course dudes and dudettes the blame is not solely on Cam but it's obvious he's missing things we shouldn't rely upon a non-player to coach him up about.

Elaborate on what you think I'm alleging for because you seem to be lumping me with this whole the world vs. Cam deal.

You even gave him pie for the post.

Hey, keep back pedaling and dodging though. We wouldn't want you to have to actually backup what you type.

[davos]

So you don't believe there's truth to that?  It's pretty obvious

[TheRed]

I'm waiting on you to provide it to me. Simply typing it on the internet does not make it fact.

[davos]

I mean it'd be nice if you at least made an argument for yourself rather than being a d*ck.  I don't need to prove you anything.  

[TheRed]

So basically you make ludicrous statements based on zero facts, and expect everyone to disprove you?

You should probably just go back to mostly lurking beach.

[davos]

I'm laughing here at all detractors because Kaepernick and RG3 are struggling too but fans are making excuses for them. How does that make sense? Both of them have superior weapons, o-lines and coaching staffs, yet Cam is the problem? Ha!

 

no single person is "the problem" 

 

The thing people need to change most is their mindset going into these mindless debates

[davos]

So basically you make ludicrous statements based on zero facts, and expect everyone to disprove you?

 

 

yes.

 

it's wonderful