Andy Lucky

[carpantherfan84]

From earlier in the thread...

 

 

 

Nah.  Not you at all...

 

lol, you are misrepresenting my point.

[Mr. Scot]

lol, you are misrepresenting my point.

 

By quoting you?

 

Okay :unsure:

 

[carpantherfan84]

By quoting you?

 

Okay :unsure:

its cool man, whatever. I feel like I am talking to a brick wall anyway and I have to be at work at 6 in the morn

[teeray]

My only thing with Luck, isn't whether he is good or not.  He clearly is.  I just point out the double standard that is often put out by the media and some fans in regards to our QB, as well as the media putting the cart before the horse with what we should think about Luck.

 

I have no problem with Andrew Luck being great and a hall of famer.  I just want him to be those things before it is declared by people trying to push the guy into something he is not at this point.

 

My ire is more pointed at the media, fans, and other talking heads than Luck himself.  He seems like a great dude.

[charlotte49er]

The media "ball washes" someone every year.  Right now it seems to be Andrew Luck. 

 

How many time did John Madden work Brett Farve's name into his play by play? It seemed like very 4th work out of his mouth was about Farve.  (Even if he wasn't covering one of his games.)  He said it so many time, it got to be a drinking game.  LOL  Every time Madden said Brett Farve's name, college students all over the nation were taking a shot!

 

Last year, the media tried to make the Luck vs RGIII but that has seemed to die down.  (Maybe because RGIII seems to be more fragile?) 

 

Maybe next year it's Johnny Football. 

[Brooklyn Bully]

Do yourself a favor and let go of the inferiority complex.

 

Luck is really good.  That fact takes nothing away from Newton.

 

Obsessively trying anything to tear him down just makes you look like a jealous teenage girl.

 

Get over it.  Focus on your own QB rather than worrying how much people like somebody else's.

 

This.

 

The young bucks on this forum who constantly get butt hurt over Cam, feel the need to constantly defend him like he's part of their family, who rip on any other young QB, etc. are straight up retarded. But look, you'll get over it and the testosterone will drop a few notches in a few years and you'll be able to enjoy life more. :)

 

[BBQ&Beer]

This.

 

The young bucks on this forum who constantly get butt hurt over Cam, feel the need to constantly defend him like he's part of their family, who rip on any other young QB, etc. are straight up retarded. But look, you'll get over it and the testosterone will drop a few notches in a few years and you'll be able to enjoy life more. :)

 

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[footballisasport]

Dang, it is going to take two missed field goals, a collapsed coach, and a bump from the refs to get this kid a win today.  Andrew Lucky?

 

 

That pass was on a dime though :goodjob:

 

Correction, three missed field goals.

 

Luck is proving that he is way more lucky than good. But those in the media are making sure to convince us that he's beyond good.

 

What I saw last night was not a Peyton Manning on display, despite the hype, but a kid who seems to catch a lot of lucky breaks and is able to capitalize on them. It's clear the emotion and spirit of the Texan team died when their coach went down and it showed as  the game worn on. But these fools will spin anything they can to convince us that Luck had this spectacular comeback and not simply the Texans lost the game. Three points was all they scored in the final two qrters. 3 points. Despite the fact that there were 4 field-goal attempts in those two qrters and one that would have tied the game.

 

This is how bias and obviously tunnel visioned these fools are about Luck. They are not even speaking on the QB for the Texan and how composed and mature he was. Keenum isn't getting an ounce of praise from these Luck behind kissers on NFLN. When truth be told, he played WAY better than Luck, He never buckled under the pressure. He wasn't the one who lost the game. There were 9 points left on the field that would have been more than enough for the team to win. The Colts Defenders only started sacking him near the end of the fourth qrter. He was like Houdini for three plus qrters, unlike Luck.  And considering this was Keenum second game with his team vs. Luck's 2nd year, he connected way better with multiple players on his team, when Luck didn't have his "go to" Receiver and was flaring away until he got a couple of lucky strikes in the fourth quarter.  What does that say about Luck?

 

IMO, Luck is more in line with Alex Smith style of playing. Dink and dunking, very methodical style of game managing.They won't do much but when they catch those lucky breaks, the breaks usually seem to work out in their favor.  But unlike Alex, whose team is 9-0, Luck is gets ALL the praises and tongue bathing for his team wins because we're being trained to see him as the next Peyton, Brady, or even better than them, when he's not. Yet, all you hear from these Fools on NFLN is the Kansas City Chiefs are 9-0. Very little credit is going to Alex Smith for helping the team win.Such is the perks that goes with being a "chosen QB."

[footballisasport]

The media "ball washes" someone every year.  Right now it seems to be Andrew Luck. 

 

How many time did John Madden work Brett Farve's name into his play by play? It seemed like very 4th work out of his mouth was about Farve.  (Even if he wasn't covering one of his games.)  He said it so many time, it got to be a drinking game.  LOL  Every time Madden said Brett Farve's name, college students all over the nation were taking a shot!

 

Last year, the media tried to make the Luck vs RGIII but that has seemed to die down.  (Maybe because RGIII seems to be more fragile?)

 

Maybe next year it's Johnny Football. 

 

These folks in the media are full of ish. They wanted a Cam vs. Luck draft  because they saw Cam as this exceptionally gifted young black QB who they didn't care for, for the same reason. They saw Luck as his best challenger but didn't get what they wanted in the 2011 because Luck stayed in school.  So, they simply recreated one with Luck vs RG III when he came out of nowhere and beat Luck for the Heisman. Luck was always the media's "choosen QB." And, they knew RG III was fragile from his college days. Remember, they choose these QBs based on their Scouting Reports and some of cases, special word of mouth. They are well aware of what these QBs can and cannot do. RG III fragility was well documented.  

 

Even I knew about his leg issues when I did my background check on him.

[FugginPoo]

Luck is better than Cam....get over it.

[TheRed]

Nobody gives a damn who's better. They don't even play in the same conference.

The few people who can't stop talking about him here aren't even Panthers fans. Take this crap to the Colts boards.

[Mr. Scot]

What about the old heads on this forum that constantly get butthurt over any defense of Cam & feel the need to rush in to rip on anyone posting in his defense? :)

Defense of Newton shouldn't be an issue, if it's done as such. Nor should criticism if it's justified.

It's the silliness that counts trying to tear down other QBs as "defending Newton" that I find goofy.

Andrew Luck is a really good QB. So is Russell Wilson. So is Andy Dalton. So is whomever. So...what?

I don't really give a rip what other quarterbacks are good as long as I'm happy with the one we've got. And I don't care whether the national media calls Newton the best in the league or dubs someone else better. National media could be screaming that Nick Foles is the best in the league, and while I wouldn't agree, I also wouldn't get all emo about it.

As long as Newton is doing well and we're winning games, big deal.

A pretty good portion of this forum is so obsessed with media attention that anything perceived as a slight, even praise of someone else, brings out the whiny teenage girl in them and off we go.

Honestly, what I'd say to this crowd is if you're so insecure about our own QB that it literally hurts your feelings when someone else gets positive attention, I'd question whether you're really as confident in Newton as you claim to be.

[BBQ&Beer]

Defense of Newton shouldn't be an issue, if it's done as such. Nor should criticism if it's justified.

It's the silliness that counts trying to tear down other QBs as "defending Newton" that I find goofy.

Andrew Luck is a really good QB. So is Russell Wilson. So is Andy Dalton. So is whomever. So...what?

I don't really give a rip what other quarterbacks are good as long as I'm happy with the one we've got. And I don't care whether the national media calls Newton the best in the league or dubs someone else better. National media could be screaming that Nick Foles is the best in the league, and while I wouldn't agree, I also wouldn't get all emo about it.

As long as Newton is doing well and we're winning games, big deal.

A pretty good portion of this forum is so obsessed with media attention that anything perceived as a slight, even praise of someone else, brings out the whiny teenage girl in them and off we go.

Honestly, what I'd say to this crowd is if you're so insecure about our own QB that it literally hurts your feelings when someone else gets positive attention, I'd question whether you're really as confident in Newton as you claim to be.

 

Oh I agree, but we also have a crowd that only seems to post when someone defends Newton or when Newton has a bad game.

 

 

 

[Mr. Scot]

Oh I agree, but we also have a crowd that only seems to post when someone defends Newton or when Newton has a bad game.

I get that.

For my part, can't really understand why people who are fans of a team would be unhappy about winning.

Newton has flaws. So does Kuechly. So does Johnson. So does Williams. So does Olsen. So does whomever. Until somebody demonstrates enough flaws that they need to be replaced, they're our guy.

As long as they're good enough as a team to win games, I'm happy.