Andy Lucky

[footballisasport]

That's pretty funny actually, given that anytime a discussion comes up of legitimate things Newton needs to improve on, you're one of the main folks whose entire posts boil down to the phrase "no, he doesn't" :lol:

 

Among the "it's everybody else's fault but Cam's crowd, you're probably the second most vocal.  Footballisasport would be the first, but I generally ignore him given that the sum total of his football knowledge is found in his user name.

 

 

 

Which is proving mine.

 

If someone came in and posted about Newton's performance in a game the way you're posting about Luck - ignoring anything at all positive, minimizing anything related to team mistakes, etc - you'd be screaming "haters".  But you come here and apply the same tactics to Luck, which doesn't make you look confident in Cam.

 

Exactly the opposite.  It makes you look like you'll take any path to tear down other QBs who succeed, even the tactics you criticize others using against Newton.  That's not confidence.  It's insecurity.  Reality is the continuing attempt to prove everyone else isn't so great makes this crowd sound like a bunch of jealous teenage girls tearing down a school rival.

 

Truth be told, Luck's name likely wouldn't even come up on this page (why should it? he's in the AFC and we don't play him this year) if it weren't for insecure fans looking for something they can use to tear him down.

 

How about you try talking about Newton without this schoolgirl need to tear down everybody else and then maybe we can have an actual adult discussion?

 

Thanks for the compliment. :)

 

And it's clear you're one of the folks who seem to enjoy picking the pimple off of Cam's butt while reducing the glaring problems of this team too a quick band-aid fix. How is that helping you're team? I guess you and all of your football knowledge have the answer.

[TheRed]

That's pretty funny actually, given that anytime a discussion comes up of legitimate things Newton needs to improve on, you're one of the main folks whose entire posts boil down to the phrase "no, he doesn't" :lol:

 

Among the "it's everybody else's fault but Cam's crowd, you're probably the second most vocal.  Footballisasport would be the first, but I generally ignore him given that the sum total of his football knowledge is found in his user name.

 

Instead of pulling things from your ass Mr. Scot, how about you quote a post where I've said anything of the sort.

 

Until then, could you actually address the post I made.

[footballisasport]

excellent post by Relaximapro from the other forum.

 

Stop showing these folks the truth. They need a scape-goat and Cam is the perfect specimen. He is talented and a lightening rod.

[footballisasport]

I think you just described Cam.

 

 

But Luck is suppose to be a Pocket Passer and more mature than Cam.

 

I guess not. :)

[footballisasport]

You really sure you still wanna push this point?

 

Cause if you wanna go the route of trying to say that a game with bad stats shows something, you probably don't wanna take a look at Newton's stats against Arizona.

 

Now, if you wanna defend those stats by pointing to bad O-Line, poor performance by teammates, bad defense and/or dropped passes, all well and good...except then you have no standing to invalidate those points when made about Luck in the Chargers game.

 

So, are you gonna stick with this agenda?

 

I remember you from back in 2011. You were one of the few who was quick to defend all the other QBs but your own.

 

I see you're dislike for Cam is still clouding your vision.

[footballisasport]

That's the thing, I'm pretty objective. I have coaching experience. I also work with a good friend of mine that runs a youth football league, (not a team, the league) And I'm telling you he is not particularly good. I expect him to regress over the years, and I think there is a reason they brought in his college coordinator but reduced his pass attempts. He is the type to never have less than 10 interceptions a year. His form is pretty good and his arm strength is okay but he does not go through his reads, he doesn't climb the pocket often enough and he escapes the pocket too soon. That's my unbiased evaluation. But I respect different opinions.

 

I said before and I will say it again, if folks treated Luck they way they do the not so "chosen QBs" he would be ordinary.

[Mr. Scot]

Instead of pulling things from your ass Mr. Scot, how about you quote a post where I've said anything of the sort.

Until then, could you actually address the post I made.

I did.

And don't bother with the innocent act. Any thread about Newton finds you there, and as often as not with some subtle attempt to call someone a racist (usually worded as 'oh, we know what he's REALLY saying, right guys?')

Seriously, if you can't debate without resorting to lowbrow tactics like that, it becomes pretty clear that your argument is weak.

Stop pulling that crap and I'll take you more seriously.

[TheRed]

I did.

And don't bother with the innocent act. Any thread about Newton finds you there, and as often as not with some subtle attempt to call someone a racist (usually worded as 'oh, we know what he's REALLY saying, right guys?')

Seriously, if you can't debate without resorting to lowbrow tactics like that, it becomes pretty clear that your argument is weak.

 

No you didn't. You ignored it all and went straight into defense mode (ironically like you're presently accusing me of).

 

So because I post in Cam threads, that must mean that I am a homer who thinks he walks on water? Please. Funny you mention lowbrow tactics, isn't that what you are doing right now by deflecting and putting words in my mouth with no proof that I've said it?

[Mr. Scot]

No you didn't. You ignored it all and went straight into defense mode (ironically like you're presently accusing me of).

So because I post in Cam threads, that must mean that I am a homer who thinks he walks on water? Please. Funny you mention lowbrow tactics, isn't that what you are doing right now by deflecting and putting words in my mouth with no proof that I've said it?

Oh the irony :lol:

You want quotes? You've said stuff like that plenty of times to plenty of people, me included. I'll happily search later when I'm not posting from my phone.

In the meantime, you may wanna go back and edit those posts before they can be quoted :lol:

[TheRed]

Oh the irony :lol:

You want quotes? You've said stuff like that plenty of times to plenty of people, me included. I'll happily search later when I'm not posting from my phone.

In the meantime, you may wanna go back and edit those posts before they can be quoted :lol:

 

Wait a second, the guy who accuses me of going directly to race, goes directly to race himself, but says I'm the bad guy?

 

Are those quotes going to include "Cam Newton is perfect", or "Cam Newton is beyond criticism"? They don't exist.

 

You are an intelligent poster, but as much of a hypocrite here as anyone else Mr. Scot. No matter how infallible you perceive yourself to be.

[Mr. Scot]

Wait a second, the guy who accuses me of going directly to race, goes directly to race himself, but says I'm the bad guy?

Are those quotes going to include "Cam Newton is perfect", or "Cam Newton is beyond criticism"? They don't exist.

You are an intelligent poster, but as much of a hypocrite here as anyone else Mr. Scot. No matter how infallible you perceive yourself to be.

Oh right. You've never done any of that :lol:

Yeah, it's all me. And I'm sure nobody else would say you'd said something like that to them, now would they?

[TheRed]

Oh right. You've never done any of that :lol:

Yeah, it's all me. And I'm sure nobody else would say you'd said something like that to them, now would they?

 

Clearly you are still harboring animosity from some previous disagreement. Let it out, Mr. Scot.

[Mr. Scot]

Clearly you are still harboring animosity from some previous disagreement. Let it out, Mr. Scot.

Not really :lol: But I can see where you'd wanna use that as a deflection.

You're not as important as you'd like to think.

[TheRed]

Not really :lol: But I can see where you'd wanna use that as a deflection.

You're not as important as you'd like to think.

 

Ugh. What's the next set of posts between us going to be? "I know you are, but what am I?"

 

I'll let this die. Good day to you sir. Hugs and kisses.