ESPN article inspires hopes for the playoffs

[MHS831]

Thank the Panther coach for that. As the Panther should be 2-1 right now. 

 

Obviously, the fumble vs Seattle was on D'Angelo (3-0 anyone)? However, that was a mistake in execution. Rivera's decision/non decisions in Buffalo, were bad/doomed from the start. 

 

I think we should be 3-0 and I blame the coaching, however, the Seattle game was due to player execution more than anything.

 

Still, as bad as we are, there are only 5 teams better in the NFC.  The bears will get figured out, the Lions will implode, and the Cowboys get a free pass because they play in the NFC Least.

[csx]

Thank the Panther coach for that. As the Panther should be 2-1 right now. 

 

Obviously, the fumble vs Seattle was on D'Angelo (3-0 anyone)? However, that was a mistake in execution. Rivera's decision/non decisions in Buffalo, were bad/doomed from the start. 

 

Even if Deangello did not fumble they still had to score a touchdown to win. They were struggling greatly to score tds up until that point including pre-season. I have no agenda to this, just pointing out that more had to happen than just not fumbling.

[iamhubby1]

Rabble rabble Rivera. Rabble rabble decisions. Rabble rabble 1-2. You Rivera haters are entertaining.

If DWill and Keek, two players we can usually count on, don't fug up. We are 3-0 and you Rivera rabble rousers would have to find something else to whine about.

Because everybody knows...it's always the coaches fault. Man, I love this place.

[L-TownCat]

Winning the close games is a necessity to make it anywhere into January and we have not done that yet.

Yes we have. We have done it exactly 2 times.

Burn.

[TANTRIC-NINJA]

"Any time you talk about great teams or teams that mesh, it's one common denominator and that is a particular swagger. You never see a playoff- caliber team play scared or conservative.''

Cam gets it. Let's hope Rivera does too.

I dont know the 2002 Carolina team comes to mind. So does check down Brad Johnson TB Buccaneers...

On Offense Baltimore with Trent Dilfer was as scared and conservative as it gets..of course they had a historic Defense to carry them...but one thing is certain....it is a dinosaur of a style.

[FootballMaestro]

Keek didn't fug up. Even if that PI flag was on him, he still wasn't the one who blew his assignment with 0:07 seconds left.

I'm sorry but if you fail to see Rivera's below average traits and overwhelming fear to take victory when it's placed in his hands as a head coach, then may I suggest you stop drinking?

 

Well, we all know the Buffalo game was on Rivera (just some stupid/nonsensical decision making on his part).

 

Would anyone be complaining about the Panthers [much] if they were 2-1 now? I don't think so. 

 

Plus, are we supposed to feel confident about Rivera making the playoffs this year, till we see otherwise (especially while the team is 1-2)?

 

Doesn't mean, we won't root for the team, Rivera, and the players. Of course we will. However [the reality], it is what it is. 

[CardiacCats]

It's great and all but my expectations remain tempered because at the end of the day Rivera is still our head coach lol

yup.

[SevenSixes]

I just want to mention that I actually like David Newton's reporting.

It's both respectful and insightful.

Which is a sure sign that ESPN will fire him prior to the end of the season.

[iamhubby1]

Keek didn't fug up. Even if that PI flag was on him, he still wasn't the one who blew his assignment with 0:07 seconds left.

I'm sorry but if you fail to see Rivera's below average traits and overwhelming fear to take victory when it's placed in his hands as a head coach, then may I suggest you stop drinking?

So...it is perfectly alright to blame Norman, but not Keek? Oh ok, I need to get these new fangled interwebz rules down.

You don't have to be sorry...you just choose to be. Bazinga.

There are no points I can make to give any of you Rivera haterz pause. But, what the hellz I'll try.

The only mistake Rivera has made more than once? Relying on his Defense to win a game. He is a better coach today than he was when he got here. This team is playing better than when he got here. He is not afraid to self-evaluate and make changes he feels will make the team better. AND...belittle this all you want, but having the players love to play for you is huge.

This team is on the verge of something special. If you Rivera haterz have your way, we would tear it down and start over. If you think Rivera ain't smart, changing coaches at this point would not be much smarter.

And lastly...picking a HOF coach is like 1,000,728 to 1. Just because you want to replace Rivera does not mean you can upgrade him.

[FootballMaestro]

I still don't trust Rivera. Yes, this is the only game we can pin on him for stupid decisions and lack of balls, but there's 13 more games to be had and that's what frightens me. I don't know who the hell is gonna show up for those remaining games. What's done is done. Ron still has a shot to retain his job by ignoring his DC mentality. Will he do it? Well, he's had two years to change his ways and build on those experiences. So, no. The probability of Rivera costing us more games remains moderately high.

 

I agree with everything you said. 

 

And I'm on the record of saying: "Unless Rivera makes the Superbowl, get rid of him".

 

Like you; I don't trust him. And I don't feel he will/can be a consistent NFL Head Coach that gets the best out of his team every year (especially on offense).

 

He seems to complacent, and easy to fall back on old/bad habits in my opinion.  

[iamhubby1]

Fear of the past has blinded too many of you of the future.

[FootballMaestro]

Even if Deangello did not fumble they still had to score a touchdown to win. They were struggling greatly to score tds up until that point including pre-season. I have no agenda to this, just pointing out that more had to happen than just not fumbling.

 

I don't count the preseason.

 

Buffalo and especially Seattle have very good defenses (Buffalo pass rushers), so I give them the benefit of the doubt. But I get your premise, they could have been more creative and determined in scoring. Yes. 

 

Plus, Ronnie left 7 pts on the board (for a total of 27) against Buffalo, when he had no intention to score a TD on the last series and only wanted to run down the clock for a FG.  So yes, I put that squarely on Ron Rivera!!!

[FootballMaestro]

Fear of the past has blinded too many of you of the future.

 

You mean his EVALUATION PERIOD!!??

 

Like it or not; Rivera's coaching tenure is an evaluation period. And so far, he's failing. Many believe he's already failed!! What do you want us to say or do?

 

Most sensible owners, would have fired him by now on his body of work. It's not pretty. 

 

The guy keeps making the same mistakes, while seemingly clueless as to what his job responsibility is many times. Boy, I would love to work for you as a screw up. 

 

It's not about his "potential" or if you "like Ronnie". All Coordinator's who become head coaches have "potential". That's why they became Head Coaches (though in Ron Ron's case; no one apparently wanted him, except the similarly lambasted, and questionable Marty Hurney). However, many are just not cut out for the job of Head Coach. 

 

And until proven otherwise (see we're giving him a chance), Ron Rivera appears to be one of those Failed Coordinators who can't grasp the HC position fully. 

[caatfan]

 

 

Would anyone be complaining about the Panthers [much] if they were 2-1 now? I don't think so. 

 

 

I do. We'd be 2-1 or 3-0 despite Rivera. Some people just have to find fault and complain, no matter what. We don't have the best coach in the league so let's get rid of him. Let's hope they lose every game, just to make sure he gets fired. Me, I'll take a win anytime, even if it's a comedy of errors.