Lafell: separation and getting open?

[Snake]

The problem is LaFell is hit or miss. The guy will make some great grabs but then make a bone head move like he did on the INT on Cam. Cam just trusts Smith and Olsen to make the play, where he does not trust LaFell or Ginn to do the same. The fact is you make a QB look bad he is going to look the other way. Both Ginn and LaFell have done that while Smith and Olsen make him look good in tough situations.

[rayzor]

So this may be a touchy question, but does Smith demand targets a little too much?  And if so, is that a contributing reason why we've never been able to develop a number two while he's been here?

 

Not suggesting it's true, but I'm curious about what the board thinks.

 

a lot? yes. too much? nope. he's an elite WR. it's in his nature to want it every down and be upset when he doesn't. he's always fighting for the ball to get in his hands, whether that fight is with a QB who doesn't think it's the best option, a coaching staff that can't scheme to get him open, a FO who can't get him help, or a DB blanketing him.

 

if he weren't that hungry for the ball, he wouldn't have had nearly the success he's had in the league.

 

[Fox007]

The problem is LaFell is hit or miss. The guy will make some great grabs but then make a bone head move like he did on the INT on Cam. Cam just trusts Smith and Olsen to make the play, where he does not trust LaFell or Ginn to do the same.

 

If I was Cam I would be re thinking that Olsen idea...he has dropped what...5 passes already?

 

He also drops like a ton of bricks upon even the most modest of contact.

 

I would be looking for Ginn more, if anything.

 

 

BTW the idea that Lafell can't get open is a myth...always was.

[AceBoogie]

If I was Cam I would be re thinking that Olsen idea...he has dropped what...5 passes already?

He also drops like a ton of bricks upon even the most modest of contact.

I would be looking for Ginn more, if anything.

BTW the idea that Lafell can't get open is a myth...always was.

It's not a myth I'm at the games and watch the games and Lafell has struggled to consistently get Open. Yesterday was easily the best game of his career.

[Fox007]

It's not a myth I'm at the games and watch the games and Lafell has struggled to consistently get Open. Yesterday was easily the best game of his career.

 

It is a myth, you think you're the only one that goes to games?

 

He's been open plenty and Cam looks more to Olsen or Smitty(obv).

 

He wasn't open vs the Seahawks often b/c...well no poo.

[thefuzz]

So this may be a touchy question, but does Smith demand targets a little too much?  And if so, is that a contributing reason why we've never been able to develop a number two while he's been here?

 

Not suggesting it's true, but I'm curious about what the board thinks.

 

Possibly, I have thought about this for a while now.

 

I keep asking myself, is SS just competitive and wants to win and doesn't trust his number two, or is he a bit of a ball hog?

 

Won't really know until he is retired most likely.

[Tarheels23]

Before the ball was thrown, Smitty raised his hands as to say "I'm Opened" and he left them up, up until Lafell caught the ball, and then Smitty just changed his hands to signal a TD.

 

Nothing more nothing less.

 

I do agree that in the pass Smitty has made it hard to develop a #2.

 

It's no coincidence Keary Colbert had his best season, when Smitty was out.

[Peppers90 NC]

He also could have played defender on the interception but Cam could have also helped there.

My comment on the int, Lafell ran the route flat and lazy, rounded the route off instead of the sharp angle comeback.  Ross ran the route better than Lafell.  For a timing route like that, even though Cam had a defender in his face, the ball was put in the right spot at the right time.  Only problem was Ross never turned his back so he saw the ball and was able to step underneath.  Lafell was more to blame than Cam was, with the oline taking some blame too.

[Happy Panther]

Smith demands targets and he should. Very few WRs in the league have the ability to make a catch on any thrown like smitty does.

 

I'm surprised he didn't make the catch on the play where he got injured.

[Happy Panther]

My comment on the int, Lafell ran the route flat and lazy.  Ross ran the route better than Lafell.  For a timing route like that, even though Cam had a defender in his face, the ball was put in the right spot at the right time.  Only problem was Ross never turned his back so he saw the ball and was able to step underneath.  Lafell was more to blame than Cam was, with the oline taking some blame too.

 

I'd like to see a replay of that one

[MichaelNewtonII]

The offense finally clicked because Shula finally took his leash off Cam, and Cam showed his worthiness of this by reminding us who was THE MAN before rg3, wilson, Kaepernick, and Luck took the spotlight. He showed he's still the most exciting QB in the league, and LaFell just happen to get open on this day Cam got his groove back.

[Peppers90 NC]

I'd like to see a replay of that one

On a comeback, he should have come right back to the ball.  He ran it flat, if you can see the replay, you'll see what I mean.  Instead of coming back hard, maybe he wasn't expecting the ball, but it was a timing route, should run it hard regardless.

[Gabeking]

Fox showed a replay of the first Lafell TD but zoomed in on Smitty. Smith threw his arms up in the air because he beat his man and didn't get the ball. Even after Lafell caught the TD, smith just turned to the bench with his arms up giving the impression he was mad he didn't get the ball. Even my dad (not a panthers fan, just enjoys watching football) was like "what's he so mad about"?

I could see Cam feeling the need to press and get the ball to Smith to make him happy. Some of you may roast me for this because I'm kind of making an assumption but go back and watch after the first Lafell TD and tell me what you think.

That's his TD motion, watch the x-clown play he does the same thing.

[mbarbour21]

Fox showed a replay of the first Lafell TD but zoomed in on Smitty. Smith threw his arms up in the air because he beat his man and didn't get the ball. Even after Lafell caught the TD, smith just turned to the bench with his arms up giving the impression he was mad he didn't get the ball. Even my dad (not a panthers fan, just enjoys watching football) was like "what's he so mad about"?

I could see Cam feeling the need to press and get the ball to Smith to make him happy. Some of you may roast me for this because I'm kind of making an assumption but go back and watch after the first Lafell TD and tell me what you think.

Prob because he was WIDE open. Wouldnt read much into it unless he starts cryin about it. I don't think that will happen tho. It was basically a gimme, so he was prob just like, "Dude.... " But yeh, I get what yall were sayin tho......he scored.