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Are Cam and Rivera adjoined at the hip?

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MHS831 Grand Master

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So basically you have no argument for that, and are attempting to shoot holes in it by calling him a liar.

Makes sense.

 

 

You think that a casual comment made before last season is the basis for a long-term commitment and Mr. Richardson is bound to abide by it regardless of the wins and losses / productivity that followed?  You suggest that no matter what Gettlemen thinks, Mr. Richardson will override his GM because he made a comment to support his QB to a reporter in August of 2012?  You are telling others about making "sense"?

 

We all say things that come back to bite us.  That is the underlying point in Sorenson's article---the point you missed.  How things have changed, in other words, without actually saying it. 

 

I don;t even think you understood my initial point because not one thing you have said addressed it.

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You think that a casual comment made before last season is the basis for a long-term commitment and Mr. Richardson is bound to abide by it regardless of the wins and losses / productivity that followed?  You suggest that no matter what Gettlemen thinks, Mr. Richardson will override his GM because he made a comment to support his QB to a reporter in August of 2012?  You are telling others about making "sense"?

 

We all say things that come back to bite us.  That is the underlying point in Sorenson's article---the point you missed.  How things have changed, in other words, without actually saying it. 

 

I don;t even think you understood my initial point because not one thing you have said addressed it.

 

this is thered we are talking about.

 

and now that i've said that i expect some sort of angry post back to me.

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You think that a casual comment made before last season is the basis for a long-term commitment and Mr. Richardson is bound to abide by it regardless of the wins and losses / productivity that followed? You suggest that no matter what Gettlemen thinks, Mr. Richardson will override his GM because he made a comment to support his QB to a reporter in August of 2012? You are telling others about making "sense"?

We all say things that come back to bite us. That is the underlying point in Sorenson's article---the point you missed. How things have changed, in other words, without actually saying it.

I don;t even think you understood my initial point because not one thing you have said addressed it.

All you're giving me is your opinion, not facts. I'm sorry to break it to you, but that doesn't change what he said.

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MHS831 Grand Master

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True but G-man's experience with Eli should help him in realizing that he should ignore fan and media noise.

Eli in his 4th season threw 20 INTs played terrible in some key games. Fans were booing him and the NY Post plastered his face on the front page with the headline "Eli the Terrible"

He the went on to win the Super Bowl that same year.

That was Eli's 4th season. We are only two games into Cams third and the birds are already chirping.

Patience has always been the key to Cams development as with any young QB. It isn't like he has been defunct as a QB he just hasn't been perfect.

He will be fine I just hope we have the patience as a fan base and franchise to see it through. Judging by some of these threads I am starting to have my doubts

 

I am not throwing Cam to the wolves--my initial comment was that Gettlemen may decide, depending on who he hires as the next coach, that Cam is not a good fit.  Cam could eliminate that conjecture with improved play, and I am not seeing the development I hoped for.

 

Gettlemen would not move Cam unless he was presented with a sweet deal.  Gettlemen might like a QB in the draft or a coach who prefers a different-style qb.   If he decides to keep Cam, and he probably will, it may impact his decisions.

 

I see Cam's tremendous ability.  I simply would like to know--and nobody actually knows---what needs to be done to make him elite.  I am pretty sure an OL and a few stud WRs would make him better, but how much better?

 

Gettlemen has to make a decision in a year or two, and that decision will define his career.  Do you give Cam $120 million if you are not sure about his talent?  We are not looking at it from that perspective.   I want Cam to make that an easy decision.  If Gmen had to make it right now, I think it could go either way.  It is simply something worth discussing if people are interested in exploring what could be going on behind the scenes.  Suggesting it does not make me a hater (not suggesting you think so) but a person who is interested in the decision-making process that they face.

 

That is why I am upset that Cam was not given weapons or protection this year.  We may have to wait until 2014 to see how good he can actually be--

 

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All you're giving me is your opinion, not facts. I'm sorry to break it to you, but that doesn't change what he said

I now see the light.  Thank you.

 

"Ten of the 12 teams in the playoffs this year had true pocket passers," Gettleman said. "At the end of the day, the quarterback has to make plays from the pocket. I think the read option is an option. But at the end of the day, your quarterback has got to make plays from the pocket, and if he can't, you're going to struggle."

 

Hmmm.  Gettlemen is just giving his opinion....

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I now see the light.  Thank you.

 

"Ten of the 12 teams in the playoffs this year had true pocket passers," Gettleman said. "At the end of the day, the quarterback has to make plays from the pocket. I think the read option is an option. But at the end of the day, your quarterback has got to make plays from the pocket, and if he can't, you're going to struggle."

 

Hmmm.  Gettlemen is just giving his opinion....

 

It's kind of hard being a pocket passer when your sacked 6x hit 12 and pressured all games.

 

I don't know any pocket passer who thrives in that situation.

 

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