PFF Looks At Final Play (And Blames Norman)

[CatMan72]

Breaking news: Norman is a knucklehead.

[2jakefansinva]

we don't need to review any tape or care what one player said to another............

 

we all know what the problem is................the head coach.

 

 

 

 

 

 

am I doing this right ??

[MadHatter]

Still beating the dead horse, I'll join in...

 

With your DB's in disarray due to in-game injuries... let's throw the whole game on them with 1:30 left...  sound coaching decisions FTL.

 

 

Norman fuged up bc Rivera put him in a situation to fug up.

 

But, we can break it down even further.

 

The defense and team was in that position becasuse Cam and the offense could not score a TD after being given the ball inside the Bills 3 twice. 

 

7 plays...7 yards...FG.  That was one of Cam's scoring drive stats.

 

That loss was squarely on the offense.

[Darth Biscuit]

But, we can break it down even further.

 

The defense and team was in that position becasuse Cam and the offense could not score a TD after being given the ball inside the Bills 3 twice. 

 

7 plays...7 yards...FG.  That was one of Cam's scoring drive stats.

 

That loss was squarely on the offense.

 

Oh I've never said the offense played well in that game, they didn't.  They had chances to score and didn't...

 

My point is, when you're in the position to win (and we were) and the coaches decisions take us out of that position, that's a serious problem.

[Peppers90 NC]

as many have suggested, a timeout should have been called.  but yeah, that was norman's spot unless they were playing man which is doubtful.

[AceBoogie]

But, we can break it down even further.

The defense and team was in that position becasuse Cam and the offense could not score a TD after being given the ball inside the Bills 3 twice.

7 plays...7 yards...FG. That was one of Cam's scoring drive stats.

That loss was squarely on the offense.

Well the offense drove down the field and got handicapped by a sorry ass coach. 3 straight runs to kick a fg. Ron wanted his defense back on the field like always and like always they didn't get it done.

[grateflday]

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/09/18/analysis-notebook-week-2-2/

So, to illustrate why Norman hasn't been starting despite his preseason showing, it's apparent that he is still struggling to understand situational coverages. While some here will blame coaching for him failing to recognize the obvious, notice that DJ Moore, who is a newcomer to the Panthers defense, knew exactly what was going on.

 

One thing I do not understand and nobody really has brought up .... why not call a timeout before that last play goes off?   I understand the keeping the play going and not maybe giving Buffalo time to catch their breath etc; BUT at that point when they just drove all the way down the field and even to me watching on TV it did not look like the defense was really set.  Someone should have called a timeout, that is how I felt.  

[fieryprophet]

One thing I do not understand and nobody really has brought up .... why not call a timeout before that last play goes off? I understand the keeping the play going and not maybe giving Buffalo time to catch their breath etc; BUT at that point when they just drove all the way down the field and even to me watching on TV it did not look like the defense was really set. Someone should have called a timeout, that is how I felt.

You answered your own question, and aside from Norman the defense was set, as they ran an all-out blitz that was a whisker away from landing, but Johnson got wide open due to Norman not understanding the switch call from Moore.

[OneBadCat]

Dipsht Rivera should have called a timeout. He knew Norman was out there. It's his fault just as much as Norman's.

[Fan01]

http://espn.go.com/blog/carolina-panthers/post/_/id/549/josh-normans-side-of-game-winning-td

 

Here's Norman's response about the TD.  He says he never heard the call but no one believes that. He heard the call but he didn't "hear" the call.  You know when you're really concentrating on something like playing Madden (or a WR that you're playing man to man defense on) and your Mom or Wife tells you something.  You heard what they said but your mind was on Madden so you didn't really respond to her.  I believe the scientific term is brain fart. 

[Jackofalltrades]

Eugene Robinson was calling Norman out as soon as Johnson made the catch for not listening and not making the switch.

 

 

[rayzor]

i think what bugs me more than that play was what happened to get to that point.

 

how did we get down that far? jon beason....asked to play nickel....already playing at around 60% past effectiveness and never really someone who was good in coverage.

 

who did the QB pick on to that point? jon beason. each of 5 passes completed to that point were thrown to people jon beason was covering. 5 in a row. does that tell you something? we screwed up putting him in that situation. yes...he should have done his job. the only problem was the job was too big for the guy. he's not a DB. he's not healthy. he's done poorly since coming back...so we ask him to cover a WR.

 

why did we have jon beason playing the nickel? because we were beat up what choice did we have? 

 

well...the choice we had was not putting them in that situation in the first place. keep the other team off the field.

 

as ineffective as the offense may have seemed, the secondary was in worse shape.

 

it's stupid to rely on your weakest element, worse than that, put them into a situation where you KNOW you are going to be putting their backs up against the wall. it's just dumb.

 

and then you take into consideration your usual effectiveness in getting one yard in 3rd and fourth downs.

 

your choice is this...rely on one of your greatest strengths or one of your greatest weaknesses, made even weaker by injuries.

 

it's just dumb.

 

i have a couple questions about that drive the bills had down the field. why didn't rivera notice that beason was getting abused? why didn't he call a time out when it was evident? why didn't one of his assistants tell him? why didn't they change up what they were doing offensively?

 

on that last play, why didn't the defense call a time out? why didn't rivera? (if it was because he couldn't tell from his vantage point, why wasn't he in a better one?) why didn't mcdermott get in rivera's ear about it?

 

it's just too much crap on that drive that could have been avoided if they hadn't given up on their own drive downfield.

[Darth Biscuit]

I think that was yet another coaching mistake.  It was super obvious that A) Beason was playing badly, probably due to his previous injuries and B ) The Bills were taking advantage of it and picking on him in coverage...

 

So, what should the coach do?  Hmmm... maybe... idk, put someone else in there?  Klein?  Blackburn?  Anyone???

 

 

[Carl Spackler]

Norman played more this preseason than anyone else on the team. No excuse for him not to be ready. I honestly don't know why he's still on the team. If Rivera really wanted to save his job he would have cut him. I can think of 3 losses in the last two years that was his fault just off the top of my head. This bills game, last year against the falcons and bears and I'm sure there were more.

Hater Alert

You misspelled "Nakamura" re: the Falcons game, and the Bears game was all on Rivera. This one you can make a case. But the other two; not so much.