Panthers 2014 Free Agents

[duke11693]

Alexander/Blackburn/Florence are gone. There's no way we can resign all these people you have kept on here. Connor will be gone too. Williams or Stewart, one or the other, will not be here next year, and part of the reason I think it's DWill is b/c we drafted Barner. Otherwise we wasted a pick on Barner, which we probably did. I agree BPA CB/WR with 1 and 2 pick.

I think we keep Williams another year. Cutting him would leave Stew, who can't stay healthy, Barner, who is unproven, and Tolbert as our backs. Tolbert is best as a situational back, not an every down back.  For a team that badly needs to upgrade the offense I don't think we cut him just yet. Williams still had over 1,200 total yards this season. If we did cut Williams I wouldn't be opposed to drafting a RB with a 3rd-5th round pick. Great RB's can be found in any round nowadays, and I think with Gettleman's evaluating ability we could steal one. However, I think we have greater needs than RB right now and should focus on them.

[MadHatter]

People need to realize that all of the money saved from every cut cannot go to signing Hardy or a big FA. Every one if those guys will also have to be replaced.

It is going to take a couple if seasons to get out of the cap hell.

[SauceBoss]

I think we keep Williams another year. Cutting him would leave Stew, who can't stay healthy, Barner, who is unproven, and Tolbert as our backs. Tolbert is best as a situational back, not an every down back.  For a team that badly needs to upgrade the offense I don't think we cut him just yet. Williams still had over 1,200 total yards this season. If we did cut Williams I wouldn't be opposed to drafting a RB with a 3rd-5th round pick. Great RB's can be found in any round nowadays, and I think with Gettleman's evaluating ability we could steal one. However, I think we have greater needs than RB right now and should focus on them.

We drafted a RB last year. Why would we draft another less unproven back? Everyone here is going to need to come to realization that Williams and/or Stewart will not be here next year, and possibly Kraken and Gross. We can't magically improve without trimming some of the fat. Can't have your cake and eat it too.

[Kurb]

Seeing that Kugbila is young and will return and from what I heard a good upside, we will most likely let Bell walk.

 

 

Kug is a RG

[Kurb]

Dumpster diving at its finest

None of those guys can be relied on. Sanders has issues with drops and you can't bank on Britt coming back to his rookie and sophomore form.

I'm fine with bringing Ginn back.

 

 

*looks at cap space*

*Looks at needs*

*Looks at Arsens suggestions*

 

*Doesn't understand what FreeFua is missing*

[*FreeFua*]

*looks at cap space*

*Looks at needs*

*Looks at Arsens suggestions*

*Doesn't understand what FreeFua is missing*

I can always tell who watches college ball and who has no clue what's out there. Because addressing our what I think is most important need, should be done through a draft class that just so happens to be deep at that need.

Do you really want a guy like Sanders (26)and who has questionable hands. We are better off bringing in ONE veteran WR and then drafting 2 WR's in the first 3 rounds.

We are sitting here talking about the offseason because of a lack of weapons. We scored 10 points Sunday, tied for fewest of any team this year in the postseason. When Smitty faded in the second half (injury) our offense did F all.

We can used the saved money from Hardy to FINALLY properly address this position, and help out our "franchise QB" like other franchises have done.

*shakes head*

[Kurb]

I can always tell who watches college ball and who has no clue what's out there. Because addressing our what I think is most important need, should be done through a draft class that just so happens to be deep at that need.

Do you really want a guy like Sanders (26)and who has questionable hands. We are better off bringing in ONE veteran WR and then drafting 2 WR's in the first 3 rounds.

We are sitting here talking about the offseason because of a lack of weapons. We scored 10 points Sunday, tied for fewest of any team this year in the postseason. When Smitty faded in the second half (injury) our offense did F all.

We can used the saved money from Hardy to FINALLY properly address this position, and help out our "franchise QB" like other franchises have done.

*shakes head*

 

You blasted him for signing what could be cheap FAs.   Cheap FA's are what we are most likely to bring in.

Yes we can draft positions of need, that's not the point.

[*FreeFua*]

You blasted him for signing what could be cheap FAs. Cheap FA's are what we are most likely to bring in.

Yes we can draft positions of need, that's not the point.

I want to bring Ginn back.

I understand what kind of FA's we need to bring in but to cheap out at WR isn't the way to go IMO.

I don't want anymore guys with drop issues. I'll agree Britt is intriguing because he was awesome he's first two years but due to injuries and off field issues he's done nothing the last 3. If Britt could be had for a type of contract where he has to make the team first I'm all for it.

[Bennyboy88]

Resign.

Greg Hardy

Jordan Gross

Ted Ginn Jr.

Graham Gano

Captain Munnerlyn

Mike Mitchell

Derek Anderson

 

Sign.

WR Jeremy Maclin from the Eagles

CB Vontae Davis from the Colts

 

Draft

1. WR

2. G

3. T

4. LB

5. S

6. LB

7. CB

 

 

[AceMan]

People need to realize that all of the money saved from every cut cannot go to signing Hardy or a big FA. Every one if those guys will also have to be replaced.

It is going to take a couple if seasons to get out of the cap hell.

 

[PantherFeez]

Derek Anderson QB UFA Panthers TBD -- Could count as 555k cap hit (actually recieves ~840k) with a vet discount so why not, he's 30yo

Colin Cole DT UFA Panthers TBD -- same as DA, he's 33yo now so he's not going to count more than 555k against the cap. why not?

Graham Gano K UFA Panthers TBD -- def a keeper (1.8M - 2.5M first year contract cap hit)

Ted Ginn Jr. WR UFA Panthers TBD -- a keeper, not sure what he would command (2M-3M hopefully?)

Jordan Gross LT, T UFA Panthers TBD -- Corey Joel mentioned you could lift the void from his contract for this coming year (he would earn $3M, 1M is from his salary, 2M is from a 2014 roster bonus). This would pay him well and for 2014 his cap impact would only move up from 5.6M (this is taken even if he doesn't come back) to 5.9M (he gets paid 3M, we only increase our cap 300k). 

Captain Munnerlyn CB UFA Panthers TBD -- depends on the price, and the fan. love him or hate him he's still valuable

Richie Brockel FB RFA Panthers TBD -- 27yo. Small portion of our offense. Another 1 year deal of 555k if he's desired (UDFA Zordich from 13' is waiting in the wings for only 496k)

Ben Hartsock TE UFA Panthers TBD -- probably another year at 620k (actually recieves about 900K, but we benefite with the vet discount

Mike Mitchell S UFA Panthers TBD-- made 725k this year. backload a contract and start his cap hit small for these next 2 years (2-3M hit in 14

 

 

Jeff Byers C RFA Panthers TBD -- The team likes him as depth, minimum salary either way. 700-900k hit

Greg Hardy DE UFA Panthers TBD -- the elephant in the room. it comes down to can we afford him in our 3 and 5 year cap plan that DG spoke of. if it works out with an extension then it would have to be back loaded. restructures with kalil, oslen and big$ will free up more cap space to perhaps get a deal done, but I'm just not sure and of course he is the most debatable FA right now for us.

Brandon LaFell WR RFA Panthers TBD -- likely costs us a 2M cap hit this year if brought back

Quintin Mikell S UFA Panthers TBD -- Solid contributing vet, had a good year. Look what happened when he came out vs SF and Lester came in. Vet discount for us, he'd likely hit our cap at 650k and you can't go wrong at what he brings us at that price

Chris Scott G RFA Panthers TBD -- another league minimum guy. sign him now and let him compete in TC. 600-800K hit

Jordan Senn OLB, LB UFA Panthers TBD -- Colin Jones seemed to be a bigger impact guy on ST's but he is another Vet Discount guy, so at 620k cap hit, why not bring back our Special Teams caption?

Travelle Wharton G UFA Panthers TBD -- He's 32yo, and we have KGB and Silatolu (maybe even Garry Williams) coming back fom injury. I'm not sure what his future is, but hopefully we can get him on a 620k (where he makes around 900k) Vets Discount.  

 

 

Bruce Campbell RT, T UFA Panthers TBD -- we traded for him.. i think he'll be signed for TC at a minimum salary unless his injuries are something the club wants to stay away from.

Jimmy Clausen QB UFA Panthers TBD -- who?

James Dockery CB UFA Panthers TBD -- league minimum salary, battle in TC.

Armanti Edwards WR RFA Panthers TBD -- who?

Brian Folkerts C ERFA Panthers TBD -- they liked this guy enough to keep him around all year, pretty sure he's get a league min and we'll see him in TC

Darvin Adams WR RFA Panthers TBD -- Joey? TC would be his only shot, don't think he's given a call

D.J. Moore CB UFA Panthers TBD -- not sure what's up with him, TC would be my guess.

Jon Beason OLB, LB UFA Panthers TBD --

Garry Williams G RFA Panthers TBD -- they've liked him this long, and enough to declare him the starter at the beginning of the year. he comes in a league minimum and depth at RT and RG

Byron Bell RT, T RFA Panthers TBD -- costs little as a backup. I know he sucks but we need 53 contracts on the books and why not take someone who's been around for 4 years as a last resort player assuming we can't get someone in FA or in the draft. get him for this year.. i know we want pro bowl linemen at every spot NOW but it won't happen in 1 year

Domenik Hixon WR UFA Panthers TBD -- would probably cost us around that 1.2M range again. i'm just not sure since we didn't see a whole lot out of him as a #3. 

[scarface]

Alexander/Blackburn/Florence are gone. There's no way we can resign all these people you have kept on here. Connor will be gone too. Williams or Stewart, one or the other, will not be here next year, and part of the reason I think it's DWill is b/c we drafted Barner. Otherwise we wasted a pick on Barner, which we probably did. I agree BPA CB/WR with 1 and 2 pick.

Why would Alexander be gone?

[El Chingon]

 

Derek Anderson QB UFA Panthers TBD -- Could count as 555k cap hit (actually recieves ~840k) with a vet discount so why not, he's 30yo

Colin Cole DT UFA Panthers TBD -- same as DA, he's 33yo now so he's not going to count more than 555k against the cap. why not?

Graham Gano K UFA Panthers TBD -- def a keeper (1.8M - 2.5M first year contract cap hit)

Ted Ginn Jr. WR UFA Panthers TBD -- a keeper, not sure what he would command (2M-3M hopefully?)

Jordan Gross LT, T UFA Panthers TBD -- Corey Joel mentioned you could lift the void from his contract for this coming year (he would earn $3M, 1M is from his salary, 2M is from a 2014 roster bonus). This would pay him well and for 2014 his cap impact would only move up from 5.6M (this is taken even if he doesn't come back) to 5.9M (he gets paid 3M, we only increase our cap 300k). 

Captain Munnerlyn CB UFA Panthers TBD -- depends on the price, and the fan. love him or hate him he's still valuable

Richie Brockel FB RFA Panthers TBD -- 27yo. Small portion of our offense. Another 1 year deal of 555k if he's desired (UDFA Zordich from 13' is waiting in the wings for only 496k)

Ben Hartsock TE UFA Panthers TBD -- probably another year at 620k (actually recieves about 900K, but we benefite with the vet discount

Mike Mitchell S UFA Panthers TBD-- made 725k this year. backload a contract and start his cap hit small for these next 2 years (2-3M hit in 14

 

 

Jeff Byers C RFA Panthers TBD -- The team likes him as depth, minimum salary either way. 700-900k hit

Greg Hardy DE UFA Panthers TBD -- the elephant in the room. it comes down to can we afford him in our 3 and 5 year cap plan that DG spoke of. if it works out with an extension then it would have to be back loaded. restructures with kalil, oslen and big$ will free up more cap space to perhaps get a deal done, but I'm just not sure and of course he is the most debatable FA right now for us.

Brandon LaFell WR RFA Panthers TBD -- likely costs us a 2M cap hit this year if brought back

Quintin Mikell S UFA Panthers TBD -- Solid contributing vet, had a good year. Look what happened when he came out vs SF and Lester came in. Vet discount for us, he'd likely hit our cap at 650k and you can't go wrong at what he brings us at that price

Chris Scott G RFA Panthers TBD -- another league minimum guy. sign him now and let him compete in TC. 600-800K hit

Jordan Senn OLB, LB UFA Panthers TBD -- Colin Jones seemed to be a bigger impact guy on ST's but he is another Vet Discount guy, so at 620k cap hit, why not bring back our Special Teams caption?

Travelle Wharton G UFA Panthers TBD -- He's 32yo, and we have KGB and Silatolu (maybe even Garry Williams) coming back fom injury. I'm not sure what his future is, but hopefully we can get him on a 620k (where he makes around 900k) Vets Discount.  

 

 

Bruce Campbell RT, T UFA Panthers TBD -- we traded for him.. i think he'll be signed for TC at a minimum salary unless his injuries are something the club wants to stay away from.

Jimmy Clausen QB UFA Panthers TBD -- who?

James Dockery CB UFA Panthers TBD -- league minimum salary, battle in TC.

Armanti Edwards WR RFA Panthers TBD -- who?

Brian Folkerts C ERFA Panthers TBD -- they liked this guy enough to keep him around all year, pretty sure he's get a league min and we'll see him in TC

Darvin Adams WR RFA Panthers TBD -- Joey? TC would be his only shot, don't think he's given a call

D.J. Moore CB UFA Panthers TBD -- not sure what's up with him, TC would be my guess.

Jon Beason OLB, LB UFA Panthers TBD --

Garry Williams G RFA Panthers TBD -- they've liked him this long, and enough to declare him the starter at the beginning of the year. he comes in a league minimum and depth at RT and RG

Byron Bell RT, T RFA Panthers TBD -- costs little as a backup. I know he sucks but we need 53 contracts on the books and why not take someone who's been around for 4 years as a last resort player assuming we can't get someone in FA or in the draft. get him for this year.. i know we want pro bowl linemen at every spot NOW but it won't happen in 1 year

Domenik Hixon WR UFA Panthers TBD -- would probably cost us around that 1.2M range again. i'm just not sure since we didn't see a whole lot out of him as a #3. 

 

Excellent work.

[MtnProwler]

Ouch, knew it but puts it back into perspective. It's going to take 13-16M to retain only the guys in bold. We will still need 5M or so for the draft and another 5M to fill the rest of the team. Need some of that magic Gman!