Charles Johnson restructures contract -saves $4.26 Million (old thread bumped)

[Marguide]

For those thinking this is a precursor to another move, keep in mind that things like this don´t happen overnight. Chances are Gettleman and CJ´s agent have been working on this for awhile.

 

It is probably nothing more than part of our cap strategy going forward.

[MHS831]

Not call in you out or anything CRA, just an honest question and anyone feel free to answer.

What FA is there out there that is going to magically fix these issues?

I honestly don't know who is left out there. Usually it is old guys or scrubs at this point.

 

Bingo.  Spending money does not fix problems (see Hurney, Marty). 

 

I, however, share CRA's frustration.

[CPF4LIFE]

Trade CJ to the Jaguars for Shorts, Blackmon or Eugene Monroe.

[TheRed]

No trolling here, just asking legitimate questions to a couple of guys whos opinion I respect.

So out of the blue you ask about us "moving on" from our QB while we're only two games into the season in a thread about Charles Johnson restructuring his contract? You and I both know what you are doing here, lol.

Shame we don't play you guys until November.

[tiger7_88]

With this much cap space, there have to be some kind of moves pending.

 

 

That would be nice.

 

I ain't gettin' my hopes up.

 

I tend to think what is gonna happen is we sign "bodies".

 

I wonder if Robert Lester could be activated?  I mean, except for Rhodes, are there any sure-fire replacements that we know are absolutely better than him?

[tiger7_88]

Agreed.

 

I took a look at next years FA and our cap as well. Assuming we cut Godfrey (7mil a year aint happening), we actually have enough to resign everyone smartly, and give Hardy 10 mil a year. 

 

 

 

I hope to god we can extend him for less than that.

[TheRed]

That would be nice.

I ain't gettin' my hopes up.

I tend to think what is gonna happen is we sign "bodies".

I wonder if Robert Lester could be activated? I mean, except for Rhodes, are there any sure-fire replacements that we know are absolutely better than him?

Unfortunately, I'd have to agree with you. Gettleman is going to let Rivera sink or swim either way.

Yes, as far as I know Lester can be brought up from the practice squad at any time.

The best we're likely to find out there right now besides Rhodes are backups.

[bigskypanthersguy]

With all the talk about extending Hardy, I've been pondering a CJ cut for some time.  It'd suck--he's a quality player and honestly one of the best representations of class this franchise has, but the 2014 and 2017 cap hits are absolutely astronomical.  I'm also not very hopeful for another restructuring, and honestly that's one of the things that got us into this mess in the first place under Hurney.  The other option is, of course, to just let Hardy go, but then we're back to the Peppers situation where we let a homegrown talent walk for nothing.  Then we've got Cam to worry about extending, then Luke, then Star and KK...

 

Should we have to do another restructure, I couldn't see keeping him for more than a couple years beyond that point anyway.  It'd be the only way to get out from under the rest of his contractual albatross without getting into worse trouble financially, unless Gettleman can talk him into some sort of reduced contract. 

 

This is a messy situation that doesn't have an easy answer, but I guess it'll be interesting to see where all the chips ultimately fall.  I'm very doubtful we'll keep Hardy though, considering the other roster holes.

[TANTRIC-NINJA]

He is still better than Hardy so pondering a cut that is not happening is wasted energy.

[PantherBrew]

Too much dead money. 

 

He is worth his contract, one of the few who live up to their contract.

 

He is productive and a leader. You don't let guys like that go at this moment.  Maybe in 2 years. 

[Zod]

He isn't going anywhere.

 

He has a tigher relationship with JR than anyone else on the team.

[Ricky Spanish]

i wouldn't be surprised if we let both Williams and stewart go this offseason. that would free up some immediate cap room, but also give us a ton of dead money. 

[bigskypanthersguy]

i wouldn't be surprised if we let both Williams and stewart go this offseason. that would free up some immediate cap room, but also give us a ton of dead money. 

 

How would we be able to get out of Stewart's deal without seriously screwing ourselves?  IIRC, Williams could be a June 1st without too much damage...

[TANTRIC-NINJA]

A hurt Stewart is still a more effective RB than Deangelo. Hoping for both to be cut is not happening IMO.

The Age/money factor is big for GMs and the drafting of Barner plays the hand that Deangelo is the one closer to the door.

Now if J Stew is seriously hurt...career wise...which I still have not seen and heard optomistic news about his knee...he is the guy along with Tolbert.

I wish we went after a true FB like John Conner when he was cut by the Bengals or FB Michael Robinson from Seattle to block for Tolbert.

Back to topic: CJ greater than Hardy...therefore Hardy is not worth the same money CJ deserves. Although Hardy may get the Franchise tag if he does not extend..I know the DE tag is pricey.

Position Franchise/Transition

Quarterback: 14,896,000/13,068,000

Running back: 8,219,000/6,970,000

Wide receiver: 10,537,000/8,867,000

Tight end: 6,066,000/5,194,000

Offensive lineman: 9,828,000/8,709,000

Defensive tackle: 8,450,000/7,039,000

Defensive end: 11,175,000/9,151,000. <<<<<<<<<<<<

Linebacker: 9,619,000/8,358,000

Cornerback: 10,854,000/9,095,000

Safety: 6,916,000/6,002,000

Kicker/punter: 2,977,000/2,700,000