Rivera Presser at 12:30

[rayzor]

good summation from voth right here:

Bill Voth @billvoth

9th September 2013 from TwitLonger

 

 

Highlights from Rivera presser:

1) upset at individual mistakes than specific miss opps and that it wasn't just one guy,

2) offense needs to throw more,

3) yesterday's lack of deep passes a combo of play calls & Cam playing it safe,

4) Armanti will get more reps, they were concerned about his hamstring yesterday,

5) Garry Williams MRI results still not in,

6) Amini expected to practice Wednesday,

7) Scott to right guard (likely starting for injured Williams),

8) "based on tape" (of Thomas) Josh Norman will get extra look this week, but has to practice well to start,

9) Alexander ejection took toll on Johnson & Hardy later,

10) Alexander won't face any more team discipline, just possible league discipline.

 

 

[Gucci Mane]

Heres an excerpt from Tom Coughlin in his presser: "We turned the ball over 6 times... Thats my fault, im embarrassed by that sloppy sloppy football."

[teeray]

So if Thomas was supposed to cover his man 1:1 and it was all on him...then WTF was Godfrey supposed to be doing?

 

I'd like to know since the calls could be setting our Safeties up for failure.

 

I think he he said that he had the post responsibilities.  So pretty much deep middle

[Gucci Mane]

So if Thomas was supposed to cover his man 1:1 and it was all on him...then WTF was Godfrey supposed to be doing?

 

I'd like to know since the calls could be setting our Safeties up for failure.

 

 

It looked like basic cover 2 man, i dont think it was zone because Thomas would have stopped in the comeback zone. Godfrey was supposed to be there, but got there late and took a bad angle, still, if it was man coverage, thomas needs to be on his hip.

[Jmac]

Soon they will just put a panther hat on the podium and play a recording.

[Fox007]

So we have safeties covering blank space while we get beat deep?

 

Gotta love Ron ron

 

Even good corners get beat and need help over the top on occasion and we leave our weak ass CBs solo with doods they obviously can't handle.

[teeray]

It looked like basic cover 2 man, i dont think it was zone because Thomas would have stopped in the comeback zone. Godfrey was supposed to be there, but got there late and took a bad angle, still, if it was man coverage, thomas needs to be on his hip.

 

Rivera said flat out that wasn't on Godfrey.  He could be protecting him or whatever but he said that was on Thomas.

 

And also, Thomas had decent coverage that time (unlike the play before).  Not great coverage, but decent and Wilson threw a perfectly placed pass and the guy made a good grab.

[rayzor]

Besides the fact that he doesn't deserve the blame for yesterday and he shouldn't overplay the loss?

it's ultimately his responsibility if the team isn't prepared enough. it's his responsibility if his staff doesn't call the right plays. it's on him if his staff doesn't adapt or the team as a whole doesn't produce enough.

 

he's the coach. it's his team. it's on him if they don't win.

 

that's not to say, and i know that this is what people are going to assume,  that i'm saying he's solely to blame. he was not faultless. he was not without blame. he was part of a team problem and he wasn't a part of the solution.

 

accept blame for your part in a loss as the leader of the team. own it when your team doesn't finish the game with a win. leaders don't point fingers...at least without acknowledging that the other fingers point back at him.

 

oh, and overplaying the loss? lol. every loss is unacceptable. none are ok. saying that it's ok because it's just the first game of the season and/or because they were a playoff team last year is unacceptable.

[Anybodyhome]

Highlights from Rivera presser:

2) offense needs to throw more,

3) yesterday's lack of deep passes a combo of play calls & Cam playing it safe,

4) Armanti will get more reps, they were concerned about his hamstring yesterday,

 

I'm confused. The Panthers had 49 offensive plays yesterday with 25 of them being called pass plays, we'll say 50%. All we've been told for the last 8 weeks, if not longer, is the Panthers return to a power running game. But Rivera says they need to throw more.

 

Who cares if Edwards is healthy or not? It's not like the #2 WR got any looks yesterday, let alone the #4.

 

[Fox007]

It looked like basic cover 2 man, i dont think it was zone because Thomas would have stopped in the comeback zone. Godfrey was supposed to be there, but got there late and took a bad angle, still, if it was man coverage, thomas needs to be on his hip.

 

We need players who can diagnose a play and get into position even if its not "his responsibility"

 

I'm glad Godfrey played his empty space the way he was supposed to...but we lost the game...

 

Need to get people with instincts and football IQ and who can actually get over there to help out their teammates.

[teeray]

So we have safeties covering blank space while we get beat deep?

 

Gotta love Ron ron

 

Even good corners get beat and need help over the top on occasion and we leave our weak ass CBs solo with doods they obviously can't handle.

 

Kind of.  You have responsibilities on defense.  And the truth is when people abandon their coverage responsibilities to try to make plays or guess that is when you have busted coverages.

 

Ron said that Thomas didn't do his job.  Therefore, he did not meet his responsibility, therefore they got the big play.

[Guild]

It looked like basic cover 2 man, i dont think it was zone because Thomas would have stopped in the comeback zone. Godfrey was supposed to be there, but got there late and took a bad angle, still, if it was man coverage, thomas needs to be on his hip.

 

Godfrey was covering the Deep Post.  JT was supposed to leverage the receiver to the inside in order to force him from running cleanly up the sideline.  If he had jammed correctly Godfrey possibly could have stopped or even broken up the play.  I thought it was Godfrey screwing up yesterday but I can see why it wasn't on him so much today.

[jamos14]

We need players who can diagnose a play and get into position even if its not "his responsibility"

 

I'm glad Godfrey played his empty space the way he was supposed to...but we lost the game...

 

Need to get people with instincts and football IQ and who can actually get over there to help out their teammates.

 

You are flat out wrong here.  The coaches call a certain defense because they expect a certain play call/design.  Rivera stated it was Godfrey's responsibility to help cover IF Thomas forced the route inside, which he did not.  The big play was ALL on Thomas.  

You can't expect a player to cover something that is responsibility.  I'm assuming you didn't play defense at any level of football or you'd know this.

[Fox007]

Godfrey was covering the Deep Post.  JT was supposed to leverage the receiver to the inside in order to force him from running cleanly up the sideline.  If he had jammed correctly Godfrey possibly could have stopped or even broken up the play.  I thought it was Godfrey screwing up yesterday but I can see why it wasn't on him so much today.

 

We have awful corners...I think Munnerlyn got beat by every receiving option they had...his man just never went deep like that.