When can we blame Cam?

[Ivan The Awesome]

Jesus freaking Christ..

[KendrickPanther]

Cam did have 2 or 3 bad passes but he didn't turn the ball over. He didn't have a boneheaded penalty. He was a bright spot. If you don't like the gameplan, so be it. But our gameplan was to be conservative against a defense that can force turnovers.

[fieryprophet]

I'm actually with the OP on this one. I'm not going to blame the entire game on Cam (obviously), but he missed some opportunities.

 

There were multiple times when we had guys open down the field and Cam opted for the safer throw. Stuff you can only really see when you're at the game. So, blame Shula all you want for his "conservative" offense, but if Cam hits one of those deeps throws suddenly Shula is a genius.

 

The only deep throw Cam missed was the one to LaFell. olsen dropped one placed beautifully between two DBs.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

I'm actually with the OP on this one. I'm not going to blame the entire game on Cam, but he missed some opportunities.

 

There were multiple times when we had guys open down the field and Cam opted for the safer throw. Stuff you can only really see when you're at the game. So, blame Shula all you want for his "conservative" offense, but if Cam hits one of those deeps throws suddenly Shula is a genius.

 

anything any one player on offense did wrong is a footnote to deangelo's fumble.

 

that. lost. the. game.  period, over.  quit trying to make this about the quarterback.

[JawnyBlaze]

We can start blaming Cam when he starts being a part of the problem instead of the reason we're even in most games til the end. Although today I'd have to give most of the credit to the defense, Cam still had a decent day.

[Marc Anthony]

Cam had a good game...the help failed...

[Swaggasaurus]

Cam is a game manager, with a rocket arm at his best. He is Kerry Collins who can run....maybe Steve McNair. Take your homer glasses off people, decent thread Chuck.

[TrianglePanther]

anything any one player on offense did wrong is a footnote to deangelo's fumble.

 

that. lost. the. game.  period, over.  quit trying to make this about the quarterback.

 

I'm not "making this about the quarterback," just pointing out that he missed some chances to break the game open. How about you stop making this game about one play? 

[carolina-chuck]

16 teams will be 0-1 by the end of tomorrow. Lighten up Huddle.

 

When can we get out of that state of mind?

[Cpt slay a ho]

what the Absolute fug..........like really two drop passes that would have kept the drive going, besides one bad pass that sherman almost picked off he played as well as he could, wtf really man he took the game into his hands and did ever think he could to put us in position to win.....

this bullpoo needs to stop.........

[FootballMaestro]

I'm actually with the OP on this one. I'm not going to blame the entire game on Cam (obviously), but he missed some opportunities.

 

There were multiple times when we had guys open down the field and Cam uncharacteristically opted for the safer throw. I'm talking about guys streaking down the field - one play comes to mind where Ginn got behind the defense. Stuff you can only really see when you're at the game. So, blame Shula all you want for his "conservative" offense, but if Cam hits one of those deep throws suddenly Shula is a genius.

 

Like the one Olsen dropped near the end zone?

 

So now where going to blame Cam for being patient and taking what the defense gives (something that many hear have allegedly pleaded for), after D'Angelo fumbles on the 8 yard line, pissing away an almost certain Panther victory?

 

If the Panthers would have won, many here would be saying, "hey, I like how he won the game, taking what the defense gave him". 

[CRA]

Cam is a game manager, with a rocket arm at his best he is Kerry Collins who can run....maybe Steve McNair. Take your homer glasses off people, decent thread Chuck.

It is late and I am tired...I assume this is just great sarcasm.

[Doc Holiday]

I am probably going to get a good amount of bashing with this post and some may even go as far as to say that I don't deserve a QB like Cam. But, my question is this:

 

When can we start putting the blame on Cam for holding our offense back? Putting the blame on Cam rather than on the lack of Oline, WRs, running game, and play calling? This is a serious question.

 

Some guys just have that clutch-ness in them, and in my honest opinion I just don't see it in Cam as of right now. We saw it in Wilson today. The man was pressured all day long and was hit on many different occasions. Wilson still managed to find the way to lead his team in a comeback victory against us in the 4th quarter.

 

We can defend Cam in every way possible even to the max that he's not Peyton Manning. But nor is Russell, Kaep, or RG3 a Peyton Manning. Though, these guys are able to pick apart defenses when the time is there for the taking. Other than Cam’s two first rookie games vs. Arizona and Green Bay, I have not seen Cam’s ability to pick defenses apart.

 

In my honest opinion, Cam's lack of clutch-ness and ability to pick apart defenses is what's holding this team back. The game is win and loss by the Quarterback. That's how you differentiate the great from the good, and the good from the bad.

 

Cam Newton isnt going to Pick a defense apart like Manning EVAR!! it isnt his game and never has, his main game is to spread the field and scamble the defense and force a mistake, his skills would do better to be used more like a Big Ben then a Peyton Manning, and Big Ben has more Super Bowl rings, both can work but one is a Hammer and the other is a Surgical knife.

 

  I think the change in offensive philosiphy is a step in the right direction, but it may have been too big of a step, think of it as a balance between the two not a pure one of the other.

[Qu1million]

when we make it obvious to be a passing team like New England