4th and inches

[teeray]

I doubt that many people would bitch about rivera going for the 4th and inches and not getting it.. it would finally show us that he does indeed has some balls.

 

BS.  Losing a game to appease fans would have been the dumbest thing he has ever done as a coach

[Doc Holiday]

I and many on here don't see it that way.. to me not going for it on 4th and inches when you have one of the best centers in football and a pretty big QB just screams I give up lets punt it away even though we have very very good odds of making it.. come on man.

if many is 3-4 it still doesnt make you right, Teeray's point about being already in field goal range and giving up the lead is all you need to know about that, it's just fact you dont go for it there. if your brain and your so called "many on here" can't comprehend that it's not my fault.

 

honestly I'm serious thinking that this is just a generational issue here, thinking it should work because it works in madden. seen it before and I guess I'm seeing it again.

 

nobody goes for it while they are in the lead on their own 34 yard line, I dont care what your imagination says the other coaches would have done, they wouldnt have because they know better unlike you.

[Darknight]

Certain people on this board should be banned from talking/discussing football.

[usmcpanthers]

We could at least line up and try to draw the team offsides with a hard count one day....we are so predictable

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[Rook35200]

If the D was dominating the game why would you give a team the ball in scoring position with a 1 point lead?

 

Wouldn't you want them to try to put together a drive against that D that is dominating?

 

It would have been the dumbest call in the history of coaching (maybe an exaggeration).  If we got it, maybe no one cares.  but if we get stuffed, they kick a field goal and we lose by 2 despite our defense dominating the same people would be in here bitching about going for it, or more likely would try to blame it on the playcall and not the fact we would have made a dumbass decision

 

 

 

I understand your logic and I agree with you to a certain extent. On the other hand, Rivera and this team are now 13-20 in games decided by 7 points or less. I understand not wanting to give the Seahawks the ball in scoring position, but at some point you have to realize that what you are doing clearly isn't working. And Rivera clearly has been making decisions not to lose, instead of winning.

[Fan01]

It's playing the percentages and it's smart football.  Say it's a 75% chance we pick up the first down.  The best case in that single instance is we get a first down.  On that same note it's a 25% chance we don't make it, then the best case in that instance is we only give up a field goal.  

 

If you understand math at all you'll see why we did not go for it.  

 

Even though the percentage of success is higher in going for it the downside of not getting it is much, much worse.  

 

Think of it like this.  If you punt it's a 100% chance they don't kick a field goal right there.  If you go for it there is a 25% chance they get 3 easy points.  With a ton of time left, you deep in your own side of the field and you defense it playing lights out.   Why the hell would you take a chance in a close game to give points away just for the chance to get one 1st down?

 

Statistics say don't do it.  Smart NFL coaches say don't do it.  Common sense says don't do it.  

 

The benefits do not outweigh the risk.

 

Read that again for the logically challenged among us.

 

The benefits do not outweigh the risk.

The benefits do not outweigh the risk.

The benefits do not outweigh the risk.

[Doc Holiday]

I doubt that many people would bitch about rivera going for the 4th and inches and not getting it.. it would finally show us that he does indeed has some balls.

and there you go and go full retard, that level of stupidity cannot be reasoned with I'm out of here because this is clearly a waste of time.

 

hey Delhommey this is the moron you're siding with maybe you need to rethink your compatriots, lol.

[Toolbox]

Doc holiday all you have done in this thread is insult me.. grow up or gtfo.

[Toolbox]

I'm a retard because I want to see rivera grow a pair of balls and for once try to do something different.. sure its a risk but damn football is a risk.

[Delhommey]

and there you go and go full retard, that level of stupidity cannot be reasoned with I'm out of here because this is clearly a waste of time.

hey Delhommey this is the moron you're siding with maybe you need to rethink your compatriots, lol.

There's a lot of "morons" on Twitter that spend a lot of time analyzing football that think the same thing if we're going that route.

[Doc Holiday]

Doc holiday all you have done in this thread is insult me.. grow up or gtfo.

no I insulted you, pointed out the extreme flaw in your argument and insulted you again.

 

now you are just asking me to go away, you're the one that needs to grow up. think your argument is better then mine come up with a better counter argument, because I've buried you without even needing to put any effort into it.  weak sauce is weak.

[teeray]

We could at least line up and try to draw the team offsides with a hard count one day....we are so predictable

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And if it doesn't work waste a timeout in the second half of a close game??

[Doc Holiday]

There's a lot of "morons" on Twitter that spend a lot of time analyzing football that think the same thing if we're going that route.

because we all know the worlds "best and brightest" gather on twitter, right?!?!??....?

[teeray]

It's playing the percentages and it's smart football.  Say it's a 75% chance we pick up the first down.  The best case in that single instance is we get a first down.  On that same note it's a 25% chance we don't make it, then the best case in that instance is we only give up a field goal.  

 

If you understand math at all you'll see why we did not go for it.  

 

Even though the percentage of success is higher in going for it the downside of not getting it is much, much worse.  

 

Think of it like this.  If you punt it's a 100% chance they don't kick a field goal right there.  If you go for it there is a 25% chance they get 3 easy points.  With a ton of time left, you deep in your own side of the field and you defense it playing lights out.   Why the hell would you take a chance in a close game to give points away just for the chance to get one 1st down?

 

Statistics say don't do it.  Smart NFL coaches say don't do it.  Common sense says don't do it.  

 

The benefits do not outweigh the risk.

 

Read that again for the logically challenged among us.

 

The benefits do not outweigh the risk.

The benefits do not outweigh the risk.

The benefits do not outweigh the risk.

 

That's correct and any analytical analysis on this, at least that I have read, says that going for it on 4th and 1 on your own 34 has a negative expected points added.