Cam and his accuracy issues.

[FootballMaestro]

I think it's more correct to say he has a consistency problem, but that has a lot to do with the type of QB he is.

Have said it before: Newton's never going to be a pinpoint accurate passer like Drew Brees or Tom Brady. Rather, like Brett Favre, he's going to tend toward a mix of "holy cow" and "what the $@&%". You'll see him within the same game make passes with laser accuracy followed up by passes that look like he threw with his eyes closed. Favre did it his entire career.

You can't coach that kind of thing out of a natural gunslinger. Nor should you try. That inner confidence that results in the occasional "oh no" is also what produces all those moments of "oh yeah".

Me? I'm okay with that.

Brett Favre and John Elway both got Super Bowl rings playing that way. Jake Delhomme came pretty darn close. You can win with a guy who's more daredevil than surgeon as long as you understand that's who he is and build your offense appropriately around him.

 

Good points.

 

The only this is; we don't know if he can be "a surgeon" like Brees, Brady" and manning are now, until he has adequate protection and a few more years in the league. So let's not automatically write him off yet (though I know you're saying he's good enough NOW as is). I get that. 

 

Remember, Drew Brees bounced around the league initially. Brady didn't start right away, and Manning had a boatload of INT's his Rookie year. But they all got better. Cam claims he wants to be the best, and works hard. So Maybe he'll do the same? We also can't forget both Manning, and Brady look horrible with out adequate protection and schemes. Cam at least needs a good, consistent O Line, to help his inner "surgeon-like" ability blossom as well. . 

 

 

We'll see?

[FootballMaestro]

Isn't it ironic, that Washington, Seattle, and San Francisco ran more running than passing plays in 2012, but everyone in the media always discusses their QB's first, when their not even the first option on offense? SMH

 

Things that make you go hummh?

[Fiz]

I always like pointing out cam is like the third tallest qb in the league throwing to maybe the shortest number one wr.

I don't know if that has an effect but it definitely makes not great throws look worse.

[Mr. Scot]

Newton's height gives him phenomenal field vision.  It's one of his better traits.

 

Try finding a friend in a crowded room.  Then try it standing on a chair.  That'll give you an idea of Newton's advantages.

 

(it'll also get you a lot of weird looks) :unsure:

[FootballMaestro]

I always like pointing out cam is like the third tallest qb in the league throwing to maybe the shortest number one wr.

I don't know if that has an effect but it definitely makes not great throws look worse.

 

If you're saying a tall, high jumping, circus catch type receive--like AJ Green, would do wonders to Cam's completion, percentages, perception and TD numbers, you're absolutely right!

 

Hopefully, Gettis, Lafell, Hixon or Williams, will emerge as a poor mans AJ Green or Gronk/Jimmy Graham for Cam this year?

 

[FootballMaestro]

 

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[Mr. Scot]

Good points.

 

The only this is; we don't know if he can be "a surgeon" like Brees, Brady" and manning are now, until he has adequate protection and a few more years in the league. So let's not automatically write him off yet (though I know you're saying he's good enough NOW as is). I get that. 

 

Remember, Drew Brees bounced around the league initially. Brady didn't start right away, and Manning had a boatload of INT's his Rookie year. But they all got better. Cam claims he wants to be the best, and works hard. So Maybe he'll do the same? We also can't forget both Manning, and Brady look horrible with out adequate protection and schemes. Cam at least needs a good, consistent O Line, to help his inner "surgeon-like" ability blossom as well. . 

 

 

We'll see?

 

Granted, young QBs all have their struggles.  Often it's a matter of gaining chemistry, learning how to read the field, etc,

 

That said, in 40 years of watching football, I can't recall ever seeing a fireballer changed into a precision passer. 

 

What I have seen, though, is fireballers who became consistent enough to be winners (Terry Bradshaw is a good example of that).

 

It's a mistake to try and change the kind of quarterback he is.  What the coaches want to do is just make him "the best him" that he can be.

 

Put another way, you don't try to turn Cam Newton into Drew Brees.  You coach to turn Cam Newton into a better Cam Newton.

[CatMan72]

When he has time to set his feet his accuracy is fine, hard to eval his throws when he making them with an olineman in his lap.

[CatMan72]

Newton's height gives him phenomenal field vision. It's one of his better traits.

Try finding a friend in a crowded room. Then try it standing on a chair. That'll give you an idea of Newton's advantages.

(it'll also get you a lot of weird looks) :unsure:

I'm 6'6" so I can vouch for this.

[FootballMaestro]

Granted, young QBs all have their struggles.  Often it's a matter of gaining chemistry, learning how to read the field, etc,

 

That said, in 40 years of watching football, I can't recall ever seeing a fireballer changed into a precision passer. 

 

What I have seen, though, is fireballers who became consistent enough to be winners (Terry Bradshaw is a good example of that).

 

It's a mistake to try and change the kind of quarterback he is.  What the coaches want to do is just make him "the best him" that he can be.

 

Put another way, you don't try to turn Cam Newton into Drew Brees.  You coach to turn Cam Newton into a better Cam Newton.

 

Good points again.

 

Cam can stay the same way as far as I'm concerned. He just needs to clean up his underneath game (taking the check down, dump off, and shorter intermediate passes when they're available most times). 

 

He just needs to add that mixture. This is essentially what he did the last 8 games of 2012 (155 passes in a row with no INT, etc.). He just has to continue that [progression] in my eyes. 

 

I hear ya though!!

 

[FootballMaestro]

Granted, young QBs all have their struggles.  Often it's a matter of gaining chemistry, learning how to read the field, etc,

 

That said, in 40 years of watching football, I can't recall ever seeing a fireballer changed into a precision passer. 

 

What I have seen, though, is fireballers who became consistent enough to be winners (Terry Bradshaw is a good example of that).

 

It's a mistake to try and change the kind of quarterback he is.  What the coaches want to do is just make him "the best him" that he can be.

 

Put another way, you don't try to turn Cam Newton into Drew Brees.  You coach to turn Cam Newton into a better Cam Newton.

 

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[Mr. Scot]

Good points again.

 

Cam can stay the same way as far as I'm concerned. He just needs to clean up his underneath game (taking the check down, dump off, and shorter intermediate passes when they're available most times). 

 

He just needs to add that mixture. This is essentially what he did the last 8 games of 2012 (155 passes in a row with no INT, etc.). He just has to continue that [progression] in my eyes. 

 

I hear ya though!!

 

Longball throwers having issues in their short game is noting unusual.

 

That's why you don't put a quarterback like Newton in a West Coast Offense.  He's way better suited to a Coryell type attack like the panthers run.

 

On the flipside, guys like Jimmy Clausen and Colt mcCoy work way better in WCOs.

[Mr. Scot]

I'm 6'6" so I can vouch for this.

 

I'm 5'5 so I can vouch in the other direction :lol:

[FootballMaestro]

I'm 5'5 so I can vouch in the other direction :lol:

I'm almost 6'5", so I can vouch for Cam (in the upward direction), and standing in the crowded room. Lol