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DeAngelo Williams, the BEST RB in Panthers History........


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Yet another example why draft picks aren't always as good as fans wish they were. Hindsight is 20/20. On the flipside, we now have a younger HB who seems to be capable of the the same type numbers without the wear and tear factor of over-use.

lol not really when some of his major question marks coming out of UCLA were the very same things he struggled with his entire career (ball security, injuries)

23. Carolina. I don't want to kill the Panthers, but this is not the time to be picking boom-or-bust guys. I bet 75 percent of NFL personnel people think DeShaun Foster, at his best, is a top-five pick in any draft, and, at his worst, is a coach-killer. Terminal fumbler. Attitude guy. They'd better hope Julius Peppers is special -- and that Chris Weinke is good enough to make people not dwell on the success Joey Harrington will have as an NFL player. Because he will have some.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/peter_king/news/2002/04/22/mmqb/

As a true freshman, DeShaun Foster looked like the next great runing back to come out of southern California and a soon to be franchise runner from the PAC Ten Conference. But injuries, injuries then ball security problems got in the way.

http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=2&c=42790&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fprofootball.scout.com%2f2%2f42790.html

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Huddle Rule #21:

No player, no matter how awful they played, shall be exempt from an apologetic poster ready to play the positive polly card and magnify the one thing they did right to combat a whole lot of other poo they did wrong, whenever said player is scrutinized.

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Huddle Rule #21:

No player, no matter how awful they played, shall be exempt from an apologetic poster ready to play the positive polly card and magnify the one thing they did right to combat a whole lot of other poo they did wrong, whenever said player is scrutinized.

Rule #22

When said player retires, the player should become a position coach.

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So basically your posts have gone from

"DeShaun Foster isn't a terrible back."

to

"Well his career yards per carry average isn't terrible!"

to

"Well hindsight is 20/20."

He's not, his career as a player here was at best average. And I never said otherwise

It isn't. Its 4.0. Not terrible, Not Great. Average.

It is

Look back at my first post, the whole point I was making and defending was that it wasn't stupid hoopla or any stretch to argue that Foster was a better option at the start of 2006 season then a rookie in Williams who never played in NFL , with the things we knew in 2005. Not now, 2005.

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I'm glad his average ass is not carrying the ball so we can see him sit there and stamp his feet behind the line because he has no vision, and, who could forget, almost always going down on first contact.

A buddy of mine got his (Foster) Jersey a few years ago, and I laughed at him. I still laugh at him.

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Huddle Rule #21:

No player, no matter how awful they played, shall be exempt from an apologetic poster ready to play the positive polly card and magnify the one thing they did right to combat a whole lot of other poo they did wrong, whenever said player is scrutinized.

The point is not to be a positive polly, but rather recognize that the guy tried as hard as he could to be a good player but it didn't work out for him.... so why bash him after his career is over? We have two great backs here that deserve our positive attention, so why use the emergence of one to negatively implicate one of our former players who bled Panther blue? His work ethic was never a problem. He always showed up ready to play. I would imagine that part of the way that Williams handles Stewart's success was learned from how Foster welcomed Williams onto the team and helped him towards the player and man he has become. I would imagine the reason that John Fox kept pushing carries on this guy was because he was such a damn fine character guy and it would have been a big boost to see him be successful.

People tend to forget that these aren't cardboard cutouts, they're actual people too. I'm not saying we have to be totally PC and correct all the time because their family or friends might be reading, but what purpose does it serve to bash a player who is no longer on our team, no longer "hurting" our team, and has no impact on the future of our organization?

Deshaun gave us some great moments, but he also gave us many sad moments. Some may harp on the negative, but i'll try to remember the good he gave this team rather than the bad now that he is no longer a factor.

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You may very well be right, but all things being equal it could come down to the first guy at the table. I hate to bring it up , but it could be a Morgan vs Spoon situation, and in that scenario,Williams wins.

If Deangelo turns out to be a bonafied stud (which I believe he could) the decision will be made, and we'll be happy. If Stewart surpasses him, the same goes in the other direction.

BUT, the conversation is regarding running backs. If you have two good backs, both capable of starting, and performing well, you go with the younger back with the less milage.
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After reading the first page and a half,

I'm going to stop, and make a post.

As far as the best RB in Panther history, that really isn't saying much. Really.

It would be more impressive if our RB history was stronger, but it isn't.

That isn't to take away from our current starter, as he outplayed many expectations, and can continue to get better, specially since he's sharing the load.

I think it's also safe to say we haven't really seen what Stewart is capable of, as the man has been running on banged up wheels.

Either way, we have a great situation with more than 1 quality back, and a young, getting better o-line to pave the way for them.

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DeAngelo Williams is the best RB in Panthers history and arguably the most talented. But guys like Foster & Davis took us farther at this point and should not be dismissed or hated on. DeAngelo had the best season EVER for a RB in Carolina, but Stephen Davis carrying us to a Super Bowl in 03 was more special. Foster even put up #'s and highlight reel runs for us in the playoffs in 03 & 05. I want to see DeAngelo & Stewart take us back to winning games in January.

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