Ron Jaworski thinks Cam Newton is the 18th best QB in football.

[stirs]

I'm not talking about based on his potential, I'm talking about right now. GM's would take him in a heart beat.

As for this list or the players list, doesn't matter. I find all lists and rankings based on opinion versus facts to be generally useless. I popped in to address the mouth diarrhea I saw being flung around in here by our own fans.

The rookie QB's are rated high because their teams went to the playoffs. Keyword, teams. Only a few more big plays, stops by our defense, or better gameplans, and we could have been in the playoffs ourselves too.

With all the draft picks and money we've put into our defense, we have no excuse not to capitalize this year.

So you are saying Tom Brady and all the other QB's would have went 7-9 or worse if they had been our QB last year?

[Navy_football]

I think Cam does have accuracy issues on the short to intermediate routes. In my opinion, most of it can be remedied by just taking a little off the ball on some of those throws. He throws the ball like he's trying to drill through defenders. RBs and WRs with inconsistent hands (Murphy and now Ginn) will have a hard time with those passes. Heck, I've seen him throw the ball through Smitty's hands - and that's saying alot.

 

Now I do think he improved on his touch passes during the second half of the season. If he can build off what he learned at the end of last year, and Gettleman straightens out the right side of the oline, Jaws will change his tune by midseason.

[theDIRTYcode]

This is easy, I would rank Cam ahead of: RG3, Wilson, Rivers, Romo, Kaepernick, Cutler, Dalton, Rapelisberger, Stafford, Schaub and Ryan. 

 

We're not talking about life-time accomplishment, we're talking about ranking based on who they are right now and you could make a really good argument to rank Cam above any of the QB's I listed. 

 

No...you couldn't.

[TheRed]

So you are saying Tom Brady and all the other QB's would have went 7-9 or worse if they had been our QB last year?

I'm not seeing where I said that in my post. Troll on stirs.

[CatMan72]

Here's the good news: these rankings mean nothing. 

[MadHatter]

No...you couldn't.

 

Yes you COULD....troll

[Guest HelloWorld]

These are the same guys that put Tebow at #95, right? 

 

I'll stand by my earlier question.  What fan bases that have QBs ranked ahead of Cam would trade their starting QB for him for next year only?  Honestly, I don't think you would find a taker.

 

With that said, if you extended it out to the next five years, I bet you would get more than a few.  Cam's got more potential than just about any QB in the league.  But he needs to live up to it and make those final completions vs. the Seahawks and Chiefs, or hold on to the ball against Atlanta before we can count him among the elite.

 

Forget about fan base, for owners who actually have money invested in this would rather have Newton over:

 

Andy Dalton, Bengals

Jay Cutler, Bears

Matt Schaub, Texans

Matt Stafford, Lions

Philip Rivers, Chargers

 

There is a reason the media doesn't focus on those listed QBs, they're bums. Every week there is an article about Cam. That's because the media recognize he is gifted.

 

So you think newton is just a notch over Alex Smith(based on this list)?

The chuck the ball in the air to Calvin Johnson Stafford is better than Cam? How?

 

You guys are really f@cked up. Don't give me this potential crap, the guy has been breaking records for both years he has played. What more do you want? Nobody needs your backhanded compliment. Potential, my ass.

 

 

 

[OnlyPantherFaninMaine]

Interestingly enough I went over to a massive football message board that has fans from all teams that vote in various polls. They did a huge QB ranking poll spot by spot from 1 on down to 32.

Our very own Cam Newton was voted as the 11th best quarterback in the league by the fans from all across the league. Only RGIII for the young guys was voted ahead of him who came in at 10th and beat out Cam by just a couple votes. 11th seems about right to me and fans from other teams seem to agree and would share our same sentiments that 18 is far too long for the kid.

[Guest HelloWorld]

So you are saying Tom Brady and all the other QB's would have went 7-9 or worse if they had been our QB last year?

 

Yep. the same way we went 2-14 without Cam. Tum, for example, couldn't survive in our down-field offense with our bad OL. NE have arguably the best OL in football for the last 10 years. Not to mention coaching staff. Our offense is built for a WCO. Our coaching staff don't know it yet.

 

[Guest HelloWorld]

Jaworski is an idiot and a blowhard.

 

He is talking about Cam's "accuracy".  Laughable.

 

Cam has a 58% and 60% completion percentage his first two seasons. 

 

Jaworski had 2 out of 16 seasons that were that high.  He typically was in the low 50% range.  The only thing Jaworski knows about accuracy issues is that his career was full of them.

Those that can't do teach.

[Navy_football]

Wilson and Luck ahead of Cam?

Nope.

Maybe Rivers

Maybe Stafford. Maybe.

 

Wilson yes. Luck, Rivers and Stafford - no.

[Navy_football]

So you are saying Tom Brady and all the other QB's would have went 7-9 or worse if they had been our QB last year?

 

Fair, but Brady and Manning are all time greats. Rodgers and Brees are slowly ascending to that level as well. Not sure how many others would have been 7-9 or better starting for the Panthers last season, assuming similar offensive playcalling early in the year.

 

My question is how many games does Cam win with Seattle, SF, WAS, GB, NE, etc.?

[fitty76]

Why is he wrong? 18 seems about right. Some of you guys need to take your homer goggles off.

[Mr. Scot]

Why is he wrong? 18 seems about right. Some of you guys need to take your homer goggles off.

Position on the list doesn't really matter much to me, but some of the comparisons are definitely off.

For example, Tony Romo over Newton? :blink: