Newton not to lead rushing with Panthers

[panthers55]

1. Steve Young was very old for a player in the nfl in general. As you get older you are more injury prone. Vinny Testeverde had to be pulled out of a game when he played for us because his Achilles was sore and swelled up.

2. Steve Young got many concussions at a time when the extent of the consequences of concussions weren't known. The generation of nfl players he thrived in have been paying for undiagnosed brain damage. Nowadays there are innumerable rules put into place to protect the players, and the players know how to protect themselves on the field better.

3. Nobody wants Cam to dive head first into oblivion every single play. But like many of his runs, he can still protect himself and avoid direct contact, and he's been doing a good job of that the past two seasons. 3 if you count his last season at auburn. Downplay his participation running at the goal line or short yardage conversion situations, where the scrums get messy.

4. CRA stop getting sucked into P55's circular arguments

That is funny calling my arguments circular coming from you and CRA.

1 Young didn't get much work until he was 30 which is why he could play so long. Being 30 or 35 isn't the issue as much as it is 10;or 15 years in the league.

2.. He never ran more than 75 timesnin a year and only 700 timesnin his career so he didn't get in nearly as much hits as Newton. Playing in a WCO offense meant he took fewer sacks and hits.

3. He is going to run. The question is how times he is going to used as a runner instead of a quarterback who can run.

Everyone. Stop paying attention to the obsessive poster in CRA and the fullnof bull troll.

[frash.exe]

once again the principle that someone's arguing with p55's stance supercedes any rational thought he can comprehend.

you get older, you're more prone to injuries in this league, it's as simple as that

[panthers55]

once again the principle that someone's arguing with p55's stance supercedes any rational thought he can comprehend.

you get older, you're more prone to injuries in this league, it's as simple as that

You may be simple but the answer is not. 35 is not old for most anything. What makes 35 old in football terms is that they have been playing and taking hits since 21 in the NFL. If a player plays sparingly for 10 years then at 30 he isn't more injury prone than a guy who is 26 and has played every down since 21. Sure old people are more injury prone but guys retire in the NFL at 25. It isn't the age but the amount of abuse they receive.

Then again maybe you struggle with this simple concept so feel free to resort to personal insults which is what you resort to when you have no clue what you are talking about.

[frash.exe]

yea and if an athletic 80 year old who quit football in high school wants to get back into the game he can play until he's 93!

[frash.exe]

"guys retire at the age of 25 in the nfl"

i don't think that has as much to do with injury as it does with guys not being able to make teams because they don't have enough talent

[frash.exe]

hey p55 remember the time you spent an entire offseason arguing to me about how a mid 30s QB was going to rebound over a year post-surgery, partially influenced by the point that he didn't have as many "nfl years" on him as other QBs his age, and how it just completely blew up in your face that year?

who doesn't know what he's talking about again?

[iamhubby1]

yea and if an athletic 80 year old who quit football in high school wants to get back into the game he can play until he's 93!

Um,..Even under the, if I can think it then it must be true, train of thought. This one is out there.

You may want to talk to CRA, cuz he may not like you stealing his shtick.

[panthers55]

yea and if an athletic 80 year old who quit football in high school wants to get back into the game he can play until he's 93!

Typical of your kind of troll arguments. Make an extreme argument which is totally irrelevant instead of answering the discussion.

[panthers55]

"guys retire at the age of 25 in the nfl"

i don't think that has as much to do with injury as it does with guys not being able to make teams because they don't have enough talent

The average lifespan of an nfl is 3 years. That includes injuries and cuts. Injury is a major reason guys get cut.

[panthers55]

hey p55 remember the time you spent an entire offseason arguing to me about how a mid 30s QB was going to rebound over a year post-surgery, partially influenced by the point that he didn't have as many "nfl years" on him as other QBs his age, and how it just completely blew up in your face that year?

who doesn't know what he's talking about again?

I thought age wasn't much of a factor. I thought it was about no quarterback has ever recovered from tommy John surgery.

and again you dont know what you are talking about as usual.

[panthers55]

Um,..Even under the, if I can think it then it must be true, train of thought. This one is out there.

You may want to talk to CRA, cuz he may not like you stealing his shtick.

The funny thing is he actually thinks he made a good argument. He doesn't know how ridiculous he sounds.

[CRA]

That is funny calling my arguments circular coming from you and CRA.

1 Young didn't get much work until he was 30 which is why he could play so long. Being 30 or 35 isn't the issue as much as it is 10;or 15 years in the league.

2.. He never ran more than 75 timesnin a year and only 700 timesnin his career so he didn't get in nearly as much hits as Newton. Playing in a WCO offense meant he took fewer sacks and hits.

3. He is going to run. The question is how times he is going to used as a runner instead of a quarterback who can run.

Everyone. Stop paying attention to the obsessive poster in CRA and the fullnof bull troll.

Well one thing is simple....

Time after time, day after day....you can't grasp YOU do the same poo on the board you bitch about...

You ramble on and on about the same topics, you use nitpicky "facts" that aid your argument, etc. Only difference between you and I is I realize I do it....you are in denial. You are the CRA of the opposing view

[CRA]

That is funny calling my arguments circular coming from you and CRA.

1 Young didn't get much work until he was 30 which is why he could play so long. Being 30 or 35 isn't the issue as much as it is 10;or 15 years in the league.

2.. He never ran more than 75 timesnin a year and only 700 timesnin his career so he didn't get in nearly as much hits as Newton. Playing in a WCO offense meant he took fewer sacks and hits.

3. He is going to run. The question is how times he is going to used as a runner instead of a rprypiquarterback who can run.

Everyone. Stop paying attention to the obsessive poster in CRA and the fullnof bull troll.

Well one thing is simple....

Time after time, day after day....you can't grasp YOU do the same poo on the board you bitch about...

You ramble on and on about the same topics, you use nitpicky "facts" that aid your argument, etc. Only difference between you and I is I realize I do it....you are in denial. You are the CRA of the opposing view time and time again

[panthers55]

Well one thing is simple....

Time after time, day after day....you can't grasp YOU do the same poo on the board you bitch about...

You ramble on and on about the same topics, you use nitpicky "facts" that aid your argument, etc. Only difference between you and I is I realize I do it....you are in denial. You are the CRA of the opposing view

Does it make you feel better to think you aren't alone. Instead of trying to put me in your same OCD category why not stop doing it. Even if I were like you which I don't think it is true it still doesn't justify you going on and on. The same with saying you will stop if I do. You argue with everyone and usually are the one to start the argument. I rarely if ever do the same with you. A big difference.