Rate the NFCS quarterbacks.

[nationofdomination]

1. Brees

2. Ryan

3. Cam

4. Freeman

 

I love Cam as much as anyone on here but until he gets a winning season under his belt and makes the playoffs we can't make a case for him being better than Drew Brees or Matt Ryan.

you are a very wise man.

[AceBoogie]

So youd rather have gonzalez instead of olsen and white instead of smith?

Ask your self what smitty would have done lined up alongside julio jones and what olsen would have done with ryan who is a more accurate short passer than Cam. You cant compare numbers you have to look at the players.

fitz is a key example of this.

Fitz played with the worst starting qbs in nfl history not the same.

To answer your question yes I would take Julio over Steve Smith today. If we are talking Steve smith in his prime its not even close. What people don't want to admit about Smityy is that he has become an inconsistent player and will drop some catchable balls.

Also I would take Tony G over Olsen today and its not close

[toldozer]

Number one im not debating jones and smith. Number two if youd rather have gonzo (who promised retirement all year last year) over olsen you are insane. Gonzo is another year older and another step slower.

[toldozer]

People do not understand how very very small of a talent difference there is from team to team in the nfl. qbs are the main seperators. You either have one or you dont. Cam is the only extremely talented qb in this league who has not been to the playoffs. Its put up or shut up time.

[AceBoogie]

People do not understand how very very small of a talent difference there is from team to team in the nfl. qbs are the main seperators. You either have one or you dont. Cam is the only extremely talented qb in this league who has not been to the playoffs. Its put up or shut up time.

You don't have to debate. Men lie, women lie, numbers don't. Matt Ryan doesn't have the best two seasons of a Qb in nfl history, Cam Newton Does. If you don't think he has vastly more weapons than Cam then you need to lay off the prescriptions.

This is the ultimate team sport it's not put up or shut up for any one player because he's been putting up he doesn't have the talent around him period.

[toldozer]

Not the best two year stretch ever, the best two years to start a career. Football is the ultimate team sport that is made by ONE player. Its time to win. Not to make excuses when we lose because we lack talent. Thats garbage.

[TheRed]

Football is the ultimate team sport that is made by ONE player.

 

Hmmmm.

[Kakarot]

Now:

Brees

Ryan

Cam

Freeman

Future:

Cam

Freeman

Brees

Ryan

If I gotta win a game today, I'm taking Brees.

[Argus Plexus]

Building Leaper wow read what you wrote real slowlike

[toldozer]

I dont know what you guys dont understand. The jaguars could have had the 85 bears on defense and still sucked last year. The saints had the WORST DEFENSE EVER last year and still went a respetable 7-9. Its a team game but everything hinges on your qb.

[toldozer]

Building Leaper wow read what you wrote real slowlike

Which ramble btw?

[AceBoogie]

I dont know what you guys dont understand. The jaguars could have had the 85 bears on defense and still sucked last year. The saints had the WORST DEFENSE EVER last year and still went a respetable 7-9. Its a team game but everything hinges on your qb.

The Ravens won the Super Bowl with Trent Dilfer. The Bears went to the Super Bowl with Rex Grossman. The Golden Calf of Bristol currently has more playoff wins than Cam Newton, Andy Dalton, Andrew Luck, RG3, Christian Ponder, Jake Locker, and Josh Freeman combined all currently starting young qbs while The Golden Calf of Bristol is not. Also to your own words prove my point the Saints only went 7-9 because it is a team game. Meaning no matter how good your qb is it doesn't mean poo if there isn't a team around him. Too many times last year our QB walked off the field with a lead and walked into the locker room with a loss.

[toldozer]

I hope you dont think i think newton is bad. I just dont think roddy white and tg are better then smith and olsen. Id disagree about cam leaving with a lead and leaving the field with a loss. to me the goal of the team would be taking a knee and watching the clock run down, how many times did we take a knee and win a game last year?

[TheRed]

Roddy White and Tony Gonzalez over Steve Smith and Greg Olsen? GTFO and go be a Falcons fan.