Im only excited by 3 people, all on defense

[panthers55]

What Pep did in Chi is irrelevant....

Issue was why is it okay to judge the Carolina Peppers by one criteria and Johnson by another.

First of all I don't think i was doing the judging.  But even then each player is judged based on potential and production. Why do we judge newton by one standard and Clausen by another?

 

Like Udogg said, Peppers was the second player in the draft and had unlimited athletic talent which he only used some of the time.  Johnson is a third rounder who is actually overachieving based on what we thought about him.  Much like Hardy as well. 

 

Peppers was a great player for us.  Johnson is a great player for us.  Your point??

[CRA]

First of all I don't think i was doing the judging. But even then each player is judged based on potential and production. Why do we judge newton by one standard and Clausen by another?

Like Udogg said, Peppers was the second player in the draft and had unlimited athletic talent which he only used some of the time. Johnson is a third rounder who is actually overachieving based on what we thought about him. Much like Hardy as well.

Peppers was a great player for us. Johnson is a great player for us. Your point??

I was talking in general terms....how our collective fanbase judged Peppers.

We don't judge Clausen and Newton the same bc they aren't both viewed as top tier QBs.

Where he was drafted is irreverent to this....Peppers and Johnson became what they became. We paid them to be elite DEs. Draft placement then doesn't matter. You are judging elite DEs and guys with those contracts .....totally different discussion than a rookie WR in the first vs sixth.

My point? Johnson needs to be more consistant with elite DE production to justify his paycheck.....10 games without a sack (and if I recall Rivera even slightly calling him out early).....

[panthers55]

I was talking in general terms....how our collective fanbase judged Peppers.

We don't judge Clausen and Newton the same bc they aren't both viewed as top tier QBs.

Where he was drafted is irreverent to this....Peppers and Johnson became what they became. We paid them to be elite DEs. Draft placement then doesn't matter. You are judging elite DEs and guys with those contracts .....totally different discussion than a rookie WR in the first vs sixth.

My point? Johnson needs to be more consistant with elite DE production to justify his paycheck.....10 games without a sack (and if I recall Rivera even slightly calling him out early).....

Why do you keep quoting me then if you are talking in general terms??  Talk to the general.

[CRA]

Why do you keep quoting me then if you are talking in general terms?? Talk to the general.

You quoted me first...which would imply you then wanted a response to my general terms