Out of the WR's on the roster who aren't 89.

[ThunderKatt]

Ok so I guess you wouldn't care to explain?

Claiming Gettis was the starter over LaFell is sort of like saying in 2011 Williams started Stewart but to a lesser extent.

LaFell was more diverse as a rookie.

[CRA]

Ok so I guess you wouldn't care to explain?

I thought I did with the RB analogy.

You said Gettis took the starting job. I haven't looked it up yet....last 8 weeks of the season look who had more snaps, targets and receptions. I would easily assume LaFell wins those....

[ThunderKatt]

Your rb comparison is saying Stewart is better than Williams which I know you didn't mean that. When you say took more snaps what was the stat? From what I remember if gettis wasn't in the game then who was out there running routes in his place? Lafell wasn't the only wr out there I would have to assume.

I thought I did with the RB analogy.

You said Gettis took the starting job. I haven't looked it up yet....last 8 weeks of the season look who had more snaps, targets and receptions. I would easily assume LaFell wins those....

[CRA]

Your rb comparison is saying Stewart is better than Williams which I know you didn't mean that. When you say took more snaps what was the stat? From what I remember if gettis wasn't in the game then who was out there running routes in his place? Lafell wasn't the only wr out there I would have to assume.

In 2011 Williams was labeled the starter....coaches however put Stewart on the field more than him and got him more touches. So claiming Williams was the starter in 11 really is deceptive.

Last 8 games of the season....LaFell was targete more and had more receptions. We weren't running 3 wide much under the Clausen era. LaFell was more diverse as a rookie....ran more routes well and used his body better. Gettis went deep better....which wasn't much of a use once we didn't have a QB that could do that

[ThunderKatt]

Ok, I glad you explained what you meant. Now, rr is horrible with his decisions on offensive talent, if bringing in legs and murph isn't an indication then you don't watch the games. Williams was removed from the starting role because rr thought he would be a genius to loosen up the cap purse by parting ways with d and using stew as a with horse. Since that notion didn't work, that's why Williams is still here and if Barner doesn't fare well stew will be gone before 34.

moving on to the gettis lafell debate. Have you not wondered why lafell was dethroned from the starting role? Was it not possible that he wasn't ready to go toe to toe with the #1 corners of the league and gettis when he was #2 that's why he was promoted? Also, gettis looked better and had better stats going against #1 CBS than lafell.

You said more targets, hell, every #2 gets more targets than #1 wrs during some games because a lot of times the #2 corners are a huge drop off. Hell, some games thus year lafell had more targets than Smitty. Dies that mean Smitty digressed below lafell?

In 2011 Williams was labeled the starter....coaches however put Stewart on the field more than him and got him more touches. So claiming Williams was the starter in 11 really is deceptive.

Last 8 games of the season....LaFell was targete more and had more receptions. We weren't running 3 wide much under the Clausen era. LaFell was more diverse as a rookie....ran more routes well and used his body better. Gettis went deep better....which wasn't much of a use once we didn't have a QB that could do that

[lovelett]

Murphy sucked last year and he had a good qb as a veteran. Anything else?

 

Murphy had jaMarcus Russell most of the year, with the lowest QB rating of all time I believe.  Was that the veteran you were talking about or would that be Charlie Frye who was the QB a few games that season or the third person I can not even remember his name.  I agree with you Murphy sucks, my only point was he put up more yards than Gettis his rookie year, and with a worst QB situation.

[CRA]

Ok, I glad you explained what you meant. Now, rr is horrible with his decisions on offensive talent, if bringing in legs and murph isn't an indication then you don't watch the games. Williams was removed from the starting role because rr thought he would be a genius to loosen up the cap purse by parting ways with d and using stew as a with horse. Since that notion didn't work, that's why Williams is still here and if Barner doesn't fare well stew will be gone before 34.

moving on to the gettis lafell debate. Have you not wondered why lafell was dethroned from the starting role? Was it not possible that he wasn't ready to go toe to toe with the #1 corners of the league and gettis when he was #2 that's why he was promoted? Also, gettis looked better and had better stats going against #1 CBS than lafell.

You said more targets, hell, every #2 gets more targets than #1 wrs during some games because a lot of times the #2 corners are a huge drop off. Hell, some games thus year lafell had more targets than Smitty. Dies that mean Smitty digressed below lafell?

Legapoo was brought in to basically be a coach and line guys up right....even guys like Steve Smith. He wasn't here bc of talent.

Stewart played a higher percentage of snaps in 11 than any RB in the NFCS. Result? Most productive O in Panther history and an all time great rush attack (top 3 per some breakdowns). Then Stewart got hurt in 12....not sure how those two are example of RR being bad.

Again, as I stated you are being very generous with your Gettis "won the job" talk of 2010 over LaFell....

I said more targets AND receptions. LaFell had more of both in the season and in the 2nd half of the season. We aren't talking about a game.

[FastNFurious]

There is a difference between having the physical skills and the ability to take those skills and utilize them on the field in live-fire scenarios.... Ginn and Gettis definitely have the skills, but the jury is still out as to whether they will ever become anything more than complimentary receivers.

[Ruff]

Ted Ginn has literally ALL of the tools to be a great NFL player, he just never put them together. If his hands weren't made of cement, we're talking Randy Moss-esque. The guy has it all physically.

 

Other than that, I'm not sure if there is someone with those skills, else we would've already seen their emergence. #1 receiver talent can't be hidden forever. Those guys are just... better... than everyone else around them.

[ThunderKatt]

lol, now who is being generous? So you're giving stew all the credit for the panthers having the most productive season in team history? I bet Stewart diesnt agree with that statement. And you don't think that stat had nothing to do with cam at all? Lmbo.

So you think its safe to say that legs was brought in to coach the receivers, lol again. If the positions coach weren'capable then they shouldn't have been apart of the team. In no way shape or form should a player have the responsibility to coach players. I like that 1.

As far as lafell having Better stats then fox must have been nuts to demote him. t

Legapoo was brought in to basically be a coach and line guys up right....even guys like Steve Smith. He wasn't here bc of talent.

Stewart played a higher percentage of snaps in 11 than any RB in the NFCS. Result? Most productive O in Panther history and an all time great rush attack (top 3 per some breakdowns). Then Stewart got hurt in 12....not sure how those two are example of RR being bad.

Again, as I stated you are being very generous with your Gettis "won the job" talk of 2010 over LaFell....

I said more targets AND receptions. LaFell had more of both in the season and in the 2nd half of the season. We aren't talking about a game.

[lovelett]

Yeah and that was with Jamarcus Russell at QB......

 

Our inability to properly address WR and history of busts at the position is what fuels the Gettis hype.

 

I agree with you on that, just seems to get old at some point.

[csx]

What Gettis did 3 years ago with a different coach and system prior to an ACL injury that he has not come back from is pretty much irrelevant to the current situation. Does this really need to be pointed out?

 

Given that, Lafell still had more catches and a mere 40 yards less production playing as a #3. 

[ThunderKatt]

no, lol. Have you heard of cam newton, lmbo. You guys are comedy. I'm talking about last year. To your worst qb theory, clausen can't hit his running backs on smoke screens or adjust calls at the line nor can he throw a ball further than 15 yds. When you talk about the panthers and raiders you had more depth here during their rookie campaigns.

Murphy had jaMarcus Russell most of the year, with the lowest QB rating of all time I believe. Was that the veteran you were talking about or would that be Charlie Frye who was the QB a few games that season or the third person I can not even remember his name. I agree with you Murphy sucks, my only point was he put up more yards than Gettis his rookie year, and with a worst QB situation.

[ThunderKatt]

lafell was starting then went to #2, during the time frame I'm referring too.

What Gettis did 3 years ago with a different coach and system prior to an ACL injury that he has not come back from is pretty much irrelevant to the current situation. Does this really need to be pointed out?

Given that, Lafell still had more catches and a mere 40 yards less production playing as a #3.