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Out of the WR's on the roster who aren't 89.


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See here is where it gets tricky because we all know that JR has a lot of say as to what goes on with this football team. I think the order could have absolutely came from upstairs to start phasing dwill out. It happens all the time in sports. Rivera is back for another season and JR made that decision before hiring a gm. I'm not so sure he was in as much trouble as we think.

maybe if Williams didnt look like a shell of himself last year, most of the year..... these theories might hold more weight with me.

Williams looking average so often wasn't all his fault ....a portion was. Some of it is simply Williams not being what he was

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maybe if Williams didnt look like a shell of himself last year, most of the year..... these theories might hold more weight with me.

Williams looking average so often wasn't all his fault ....a portion was. Some of it is simply Williams not being what he was

Also remember at the end of last season Ron Rivera kept saying HE was coaching for the future to get the team ready for the future. Also none of our rbs looked good last year.

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Also remember at the end of last season Ron Rivera kept saying HE was coaching for the future to get the team ready for the future. Also none of our rbs looked good last year.

I agree neither looked good last year....and it wasn't all OL and play calling IMO causing it. We are overpaying an aging RB and injury plagued RB.

But Williams IMO earned the 2012 demotion when it happened.

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Early in the year DLo looked awful. He was stuffed constantly behind the LOS. He wasn't responsible for all of it. But Stewart,while not looking great in his own right, was playing better. Stewart and DLo both had similar YPA at 3.4. DLos' 200 yard game against NO raised his average. While you can't take that away from him, he still looked pretty bad for 13 games last season. Stewart is more versatile in pass pro, receiving and he's a hell of a runner. I love DLo, but he's not the "starter" for this team. It used to be a slight edge DLo's way. Now its a slight edge Stewies way.

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Early in the year DLo looked awful. He was stuffed constantly behind the LOS. He wasn't responsible for all of it, but Stewart while not looking great in his own right, was playing better. Stewart and DLo both had similar YPA at 3.4. DLos' 200 yard game against NO raised his average. While you can't take that away from him, he still looked pretty bad for 13 games last season. Stewart is more versatile in pass pro, receiving and he's a hell of a runner. I love DLo, but he's not the "starter" for this team. It used to be a slight edge DLo's way. Now its a slight edge Stewies way.

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Early in the year DLo looked awful. He was stuffed constantly behind the LOS. He wasn't responsible for all of it. But Stewart,while not looking great in his own right, was playing better. Stewart and DLo both had similar YPA at 3.4. DLos' 200 yard game against NO raised his average. While you can't take that away from him, he still looked pretty bad for 13 games last season. Stewart is more versatile in pass pro, receiving and he's a hell of a runner. I love DLo, but he's not the "starter" for this team. It used to be a slight edge DLo's way. Now its a slight edge Stewies way.

This is a pretty well thought out post. I really hate to do this...but.

DWill improved his blocking over the last 2 years. He is now a really good blocker. So there is no longer a difference between he and Stewy. I know some will dispute this, but it has been well documented that he worked hard to improve in this area.

Also, until Stewy can be, and stay, 100%, he cannot be counted on to produce at a starting RB level. The talent is there for sure. But he is never truly healthy. He can help, but he can't be the lead back if he can't be trusted to be 100%

So DWill is the logical choice to lead our running attack.

Sorry to burst anyones bubble.

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This is a pretty well thought out post. I really hate to do this...but.

DWill improved his blocking over the last 2 years. He is now a really good blocker. So there is no longer a difference between he and Stewy. I know some will dispute this, but it has been well documented that he worked hard to improve in this area.

Also, until Stewy can be, and stay, 100%, he cannot be counted on to produce at a starting RB level. The talent is there for sure. But he is never truly healthy. He can help, but he can't be the lead back if he can't be trusted to be 100%

So DWill is the logical choice to lead our running attack.

Sorry to burst anyones bubble.

You didn't burst my bubble, but I totally disagree. And believe 100% if Stewart is ready to go week 1. He'll be the starter.

I'd also like to add that in the same time frame DLo has missed more playing time due to injury...

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Carter had poor hands though, he could be wide open and flat out drop the pass.

Regarding Ginn, I've been told (countless times) that he plays scared once the pads are on, and tends to shy away from contact. So I will withhold my full judgement on him until training camp when Mike Mitchell is back there waiting to line him up and drop his ass.

THE FEARED Mike Mitchell?!
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You didn't burst my bubble, but I totally disagree. And believe 100% if Stewart is ready to go week 1. He'll be the starter.

I'd also like to add that in the same time frame DLo has missed more playing time due to injury...

Stewy hasn't been truly healthy since he has been here. He isn't healthy at this time either. So, if he is starting week 1, it would surprise me.

Hellz, even when DWill got demoted his carries actually went up. Mainly because Stewy wasn't...wait for it...healthy.

I would love a healthy Stewy to compliment DWill. Together they are a beast of a backfield. A healthy Stewy gives us options we don't have when he is hobbled. As much as it pains me to say, a healthy Stewy may be a pipe dream. He may always have those nagging ankle problems. Sad in a way. He could help us big time.

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A number of you take it as a given that Stew is the better blocker when that is not supported by facts, at least not if you put credence in Pro Football Focus.

Do none of you remember the report showing Stewart was the worst blocking back in the league?

People assume he's the better blocker as that is often consistent with power backs, but in his case, it's just not true.

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Stewy hasn't been truly healthy since he has been here. He isn't healthy at this time either. So, if he is starting week 1, it would surprise me.

Hellz, even when DWill got demoted his carries actually went up. Mainly because Stewy wasn't...wait for it...healthy.

I would love a healthy Stewy to compliment DWill. Together they are a beast of a backfield. A healthy Stewy gives us options we don't have when he is hobbled. As much as it pains me to say, a healthy Stewy may be a pipe dream. He may always have those nagging ankle problems. Sad in a way. He could help us big time.

Even though Stewart has missed many practices due to injury. DLo has missed more games. That's a fact. Last season was the first time since Stewart was drafted that he missed a significant amount of playing time. The only way DLo gets more touches per game than Stewie, is if Stewart isn't playing.

And all of this doesn't change the fact that DLo played horrible for nearly 13 games. And if you think I just don't like DLo that's not the case. Im just keeping it 100.

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Missed more time but more points and yds during the same time frame.

You didn't burst my bubble, but I totally disagree. And believe 100% if Stewart is ready to go week 1. He'll be the starter.

I'd also like to add that in the same time frame DLo has missed more playing time due to injury...

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