Andrew Luck the 23rd ranked player in the nfl?

[teeray]

first off, u overrate the nfc east and the nfc south. although year in and year out the east is one of the toughest div. in the league, we are talking about last year. the giants had an off year, the eagles were terrible, and we all know what the cowboys are. the nfc south had two very beatable teams in the saints and bucs. also, the colts beat 3 playoff teams, the panthers beat 2. the colts and panthers had 1 common opponent, the chiefs. the colts beat the chiefs in kc, the panthers lost. also, you completely discredit the dolphins and lions. when the colts beat miami, the dolphins were 5-2, and playing really tough, and going into detroit and winning is no walk in the park. you want to pad the panthers schedule and completely discredit the colts. you must remember, the colts won 11, the panthers won 7. as i said in my original post, it aint college, there are no easy outs. remember, a win is a win, and like ringo said, it dont come easy. to discredit what the colts did because you think the panthers played a tougher schedule is fools play.

The reason the NFC East and NFC South had "down" years is because they played each other.

[fieryprophet]

I don't care too much concerning QBA.  There was stretches where Cam didn't play well either, does that mean he sucks?  The fact is Luck led his team, and they won.  You think the Colts make the playoffs without Luck? (Assuming they didn't have Peyton either)  I don't.  Oh, and don't mention Madden concerning me.  I'm a 2k fan.

 

Who gives a flying f*ck if they make the playoffs only to get their asses handed to them? One thing I can at least say about Cam is that we will be a dangerous team to face when we finally reach the playoffs and not one team in the league would want to face Cam vs. Luck. They would take Luck ten times out of ten happily, and want to keep Cam a billion miles away from their defense.

 

And "leading" a team is absolute BS. People called Ray Lewis the "heart" of the Ravens, and yet Flacco said he barely even paid attention to Ray when he would go on his rants. It's a made up myth for people that want to ascribe things they can't comprehend to mystical acheivements of "will" when the fact is, football is a complex sport where the outcome can be determined by chance just as much by any other factor.

[Matthias]

Who gives a flying f*ck if they make the playoffs only to get their asses handed to them? One thing I can at least say about Cam is that we will be a dangerous team to face when we finally reach the playoffs and not one team in the league would want to face Cam vs. Luck. They would take Luck ten times out of ten happily, and want to keep Cam a billion miles away from their defense.

 

And "leading" a team is absolute BS. People called Ray Lewis the "heart" of the Ravens, and yet Flacco said he barely even paid attention to Ray when he would go on his rants. It's a made up myth for people that want to ascribe things they can't comprehend to mystical acheivements of "will" when the fact is, football is a complex sport where the outcome can be determined by chance just as much by any other factor.

 

 

Cam definitely has the talent, but to be honest, I still don't know if he will live up to that kind of hype.  I know if Luck was our QB this year, we would have been in the playoffs.  I blame a good 90% of our struggles this year on coaching to be sure, but I always said that Cam should have stood up against the constant bad playcalling Chud was doing.  None of that stuff would have happened if Luck was our QB.  They would have pretty much handed the reigns of the offense over to Luck, while I sensed the coaches were still babying Cam in a way.

[TheRumGone]

sombody likes espn and nfl network wayyyyyy too much

[fieryprophet]

Cam definitely has the talent, but to be honest, I still don't know if he will live up to that kind of hype.  I know if Luck was our QB this year, we would have been in the playoffs.  I blame a good 90% of our struggles this year on coaching to be sure, but I always said that Cam should have stood up against the constant bad playcalling Chud was doing.  None of that stuff would have happened if Luck was our QB.  They would have pretty much handed the reigns of the offense over to Luck, while I sensed the coaches were still babying Cam in a way.

 

What you're literally saying is that if we had Luck as our Qb our coaching staff wouldn't have been tempted to overuse the read option and we would have won more games. . .and that's somehow a plus for Luck and a diss on Cam?

 

Luck was not very good this year. This is an irrefutable, undebatable, incontestable, impervious fact of nature.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

Are you talking about the same game where Cam thre 3 TDs and had zero turnovers, and a 121 passer rating? And our defense allowed Brady effing Quinn to have a 132+ passer rating? That one? Hmm, I wonder who's to blame for that loss, geez, let me think, it's a real humdinger, this is.

 

Sometimes I wonder how people possess the brainpower to breathe. . .

 

what is wrong with this fanbase

 

what if you were a fan of another team and you were watching them play the 2010 panthers.  your quarterback was the leading rusher and had a near perfect game but jimmy clausen was apparently possessed by joe montana and tore your defense to pieces en route to a win.

 

in what universe would it make any sense to blame your quarterback?

[teeray]

Andrew Luck is a prodigy. The most mature rookie the NFL has seen in a while. I have no problem with his ranking. Everyone complaining about Luck being ranked higher than Cam, I was surprised to see Cam ranked at all to tell you the truth. Cam still needs to harness all his skills.

Andrew Luck was the third best QB in his own draft class

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

if "wins" are all that really matters when talking about a quarterback then russell wilson is your guy.  he won a road playoff game whereas luck most certainly did not and notably did not look like a pile of poo doing it.

[tiger7_88]

Luck stepped up and led his team to 11 wins. 

 

 

@ Jacksonville Jaguars - 18/26, 227 yds, 0 TDs, 1 int

@ New England Patriots - 27/50, 334 yds, 2 TD, 3 ints

vs. Buffalo Bills - 20/37, 240 yds, 1 TD, 1 int

@ Detroit Lions - 24/54 391 yds, 4 TDs, 3 ints

vs. Tennessee Titans - 16/34, 196 yds, 1 TD, 2 int

@ Houston Texans - 13/27 - 186 yds, 2 TD, 0 int

@ KC Chiefs - 17/35, 201 yds, 1 TD, 0 int

vs. Houston Texans - 14/28, 191 yds, 2 TDs, 0 int

Wild Card game vs. Baltimore -  28/54, 288 yds, 0 TDs, 1 int

 

Total 2nd half of the season for Luck - 177/345 (51%), 2254 yds, 13 TDs, 11 ints

 

IMPRESSIVE LEADING.

[tiger7_88]

 The fact is Luck led his team, and they won. 

 

So you're one of those guys that still believes that The Golden Calf of Bristol is a better QB than Cam Newton, right?

 

Using your own self-professed standard of measurement, that would be an incontrovertible truth.

 

Right?

[tiger7_88]

 if Luck was our QB this year, we would have been in the playoffs.

 

 

Just... damn. :lol:

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

Just... damn. :lol:

 

yeah we would have beaten the chiefs with a quarterback who completed less than 50% of his passes and only threw one touchdown

 

you could have put luck on the jaguars or chiefs and they would have gone to the playoffs because he's a "winning quarterback" am i right

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

also cam was being "babied" when he wasn't allowed to change the play and had to run the zone read against an all out blitz with five linemen left in to block

 

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warning QB being babied:

 

[nationofdomination]

Are you talking about the same game where Cam thre 3 TDs and had zero turnovers, and a 121 passer rating? And our defense allowed Brady effing Quinn to have a 132+ passer rating? That one? Hmm, I wonder who's to blame for that loss, geez, let me think, it's a real humdinger, this is.

 

Sometimes I wonder how people possess the brainpower to breathe. . .

yeah, its never cams fault, and luck cant play a lick, these comin years are gonna really be tough on you.