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Andrew Luck the 23rd ranked player in the nfl?


micnificent28

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Just gonna throw this in this conversation as well. If the Carolina Panthers played in the AFC South and had the Colt's schedule they would have won 11 or 12 games.

 

 

It would be nice to play the Jags and Titans twice a year right?

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Just gonna throw this in this conversation as well. If the Carolina Panthers played in the AFC South and had the Colt's schedule they would have won 11 or 12 games.

do you really think there is much difference in nfl scedules? after all, this aint college. sure the colts played the jags and titans twice, but we played the sean peytonless saints twice, a team that featured one of the worst defenses in league history, and lets face it, i dont think the bucs are what you would call a powerhouse. the colts had one really good team in their division, houston, who they split with, we had one really good team in ours, atlanta, who we split with. the colts beat the packers, vikings, and texans, and never lost consecutive games all year, not bad for a 2-14 team the previous year, thats in a rebuilding mode, with a rookie qb.  my point is, to criticize a player or  teams accomplishments because they had two bad teams in their division really doesnt make a lot of sense. and do you really think we could have won 11 or 12 games playing anybodys schedule. i dont think so.

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do you really think there is much difference in nfl scedules? after all, this aint college. sure the colts played the jags and titans twice, but we played the sean peytonless saints twice, a team that featured one of the worst defenses in league history, and lets face it, i dont think the bucs are what you would call a powerhouse. the colts had one really good team in their division, houston, who they split with, we had one really good team in ours, atlanta, who we split with. the colts beat the packers, vikings, and texans, and never lost consecutive games all year, not bad for a 2-14 team the previous year, thats in a rebuilding mode, with a rookie qb.  my point is, to criticize a player or  teams accomplishments because they had two bad teams in their division really doesnt make a lot of sense. and do you really think we could have won 11 or 12 games playing anybodys schedule. i dont think so.

 

Yes. Lol.

 

And look how poorly Luck played in many of those wins and down the stretch? He continued the poor play in the playoffs, except he played against a decent team, and promptly lost. 

 

As far as 10-11 wins? Colts had some incredible good fortune to win that total (combined with their soft schedule). Call it inspiration, good coaching,  good fortune or playing bad teams; they won some crazy games nonetheless!

 

Don't be surprised if they win 5-8 games in 2013. 

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Yes. Lol.

 

And look how poorly Luck played in many of those wins and down the stretch? He continued the poor play in the playoffs, except he played against a decent team, and promptly lost. 

 

As far as 10-11 wins? Colts had some incredible good fortune to win that total (combined with their soft schedule). Call it inspiration, good coaching,  good fortune or playing bad teams; they won some crazy games nonetheless!

 

Don't be surprised if they win 5-8 games in 2013. 

rookie qb, behind a swiss cheese o-line, looses to the eventual sb champs in their stadium, real sin huh? the cat had seven 4th qtr. comebacks as a rookie, on a bad team, won 11 games, took a beating game after game. he's a player man. twist it any way you want to. he's a winner, and that goes a long way at the qb position. i just dont believe in denying greatness, like him or not. and did you happen to hear what the players said about him on the top 100 show? say what you want, the players know.

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do you really think there is much difference in nfl scedules? after all, this aint college. sure the colts played the jags and titans twice, but we played the sean peytonless saints twice, a team that featured one of the worst defenses in league history, and lets face it, i dont think the bucs are what you would call a powerhouse. the colts had one really good team in their division, houston, who they split with, we had one really good team in ours, atlanta, who we split with. the colts beat the packers, vikings, and texans, and never lost consecutive games all year, not bad for a 2-14 team the previous year, thats in a rebuilding mode, with a rookie qb.  my point is, to criticize a player or  teams accomplishments because they had two bad teams in their division really doesnt make a lot of sense. and do you really think we could have won 11 or 12 games playing anybodys schedule. i dont think so.

 

When you have 10 games against:

 

Jax 2x

Tennessee 2x

Jets

Browns

Dolphins

Buffalo

Detroit

Kansas City

 

If you don't win 10 games against that schedule last year the coach should be fired on the spot.  It is a who's who of the worst teams in the league.

 

10 games against TERRIBLE competition.  The simple fact that the Colt's needed 7 game winning drives against that bad of competition should be concerning for Colt's fans.

 

The Panthers on the other hand.  In my opinion the NFC South and the NFC East are the best divisions in football top to bottom.  We got to play the NFC East last season.  So right off the bat 10 of our 16 games were against good competition, or at the very least very talented teams.

 

But lets remove Philly from that list because they were terrible.  So that is actually 9 games against pretty stiff and/or talented competition.  Then add Chicago, Denver, and Seattle as 3 of our other out of division games.

 

So 12 games against division rivals and top tier teams out of 16.

 

So summarize my point, the Colts had 10 of their 16 games against the pootiest teams in the NFL and the Panthers had 12 of their 16 against pretty damn good teams.

 

So to answer your question, yes there is a very big difference between the Colt's schedule and the Panther's schedule last season.

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rookie qb, behind a swiss cheese o-line, looses to the eventual sb champs in their stadium, real sin huh? the cat had seven 4th qtr. comebacks as a rookie, on a bad team, won 11 games, took a beating game after game. he's a player man. twist it any way you want to. he's a winner, and that goes a long way at the qb position. i just dont believe in denying greatness, like him or not. and did you happen to hear what the players said about him on the top 100 show? say what you want, the players know.

 

Did you actually watch him play?

 

I don't think you did. Cause if so, you would know exactly what I'm talking about. 

 

And I like Luck. I'm a fan of his. But the truth is, he played very poorly against subpar competition, and was rescued by his defense in many of the Colts come from behind wins. Unfortunately, the hype is not equal to his play. Not at all. 

 

As far as that show: They chose to show what they wanted to show. Let's see what they say/what happens next year? You can ask Matthew Stafford and Andy Dalton that as an example. 

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When you have 10 games against:

 

Jax 2x

Tennessee 2x

Jets

Browns

Dolphins

Buffalo

Detroit

Kansas City

 

If you don't win 10 games against that schedule last year the coach should be fired on the spot.  It is a who's who of the worst teams in the league.

 

10 games against TERRIBLE competition.  The simple fact that the Colt's needed 7 game winning drives against that bad of competition should be concerning for Colt's fans.

 

Ding...ding...ding....we have a winner.

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do you really think there is much difference in nfl scedules? after all, this aint college. sure the colts played the jags and titans twice, but we played the sean peytonless saints twice, a team that featured one of the worst defenses in league history, and lets face it, i dont think the bucs are what you would call a powerhouse. the colts had one really good team in their division, houston, who they split with, we had one really good team in ours, atlanta, who we split with. the colts beat the packers, vikings, and texans, and never lost consecutive games all year, not bad for a 2-14 team the previous year, thats in a rebuilding mode, with a rookie qb.  my point is, to criticize a player or  teams accomplishments because they had two bad teams in their division really doesnt make a lot of sense. and do you really think we could have won 11 or 12 games playing anybodys schedule. i dont think so.

 

Did you just compare the Saints with Drew Brees to the Jaguars and Titans? Go find a mirror and slap that idiot you see in the face.

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Did you just compare the Saints with Drew Brees to the Jaguars and Titans? Go find a mirror and slap that idiot you see in the face.

 

I was thinking the same thing. 

 

However, since this was lost on him/her originally, I didn't think pointing it out would make much of a difference. Lol

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Did you just compare the Saints with Drew Brees to the Jaguars and Titans? Go find a mirror and slap that idiot you see in the face.

 

I was thinking the same thing. 

 

However, since this was lost on him/her originally, I didn't think pointing it out would make much of a difference. Lol

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